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Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? #4569998
11/10/17 03:30 PM
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I wonder if it's on the way or if Pennzoil isn't even bothering to get PUP approved. Strange since even Gold Syn Blend has the approval.

http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/

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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570002
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My guess is the reason PUP is not D1G2 is that PUP not longer exists.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570005
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I'm very curious to see what SOPUS does with PUP, all the availability threads here make me wonder how committed they are to that product line.
wemay shared a PDS for the Gold Blend 5W30 that was very impressive to me...
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4549199/1


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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570013
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The new Blend and new Platinum seem like great oils on paper for newer cars. The PUP formula came out over 3 years ago.

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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: bigj_16] #4570028
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
The new Blend and new Platinum seem like great oils on paper for newer cars. The PUP formula came out over 3 years ago.




The Platinum looks impressive by the PDS posted awhile back. I’m eagerly awaiting your analysis results to see the actual composition additive wise.


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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570043
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I’ll be trying the 5w30 Gold in my KIA’s next scheduled change.


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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570067
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I took back the Pennzoil Platinum I purchased the other night as I found Pennzoil Ultra Platinum today for $8.00 dollars less a jug (5ltr). I was a bit concerned not seeing the green Dexos sticker/logo on the front but when I checked their site, it says it meets/exceeds that standard.

Industry specifications:

API SN, SM, SL and SJ
ACEA A1/B1-10, A1/B1-12 (SAE 0W-20, SAE 5W-20, SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-30*)
ACEA A5/B5-10, A5/B5-12 (SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-30*)
ILSAC GF-5
Exceeds ILSAC GF-5 engine cleansing and protection requirements
*Engine protection only
OEM specifications:

Chrysler MS-6395 (SAE 0W-20, SAE 5W-20, SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-30)
Chrysler MS12633 (SRT) (SAE 0W-40)
GM dexos1™ Certification (SAE 0W-20, SAE 5W-20, SAE 5W-30)
GM 4718M (Corvette and Cadillac) (SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-30)
GM 6094M (SAE 5W-20, SAE 5W-30, SAE 10W-30)
Ford WSS-M2C930-A and WSS-M2C945-A (SAE 5W-20)
Ford WSS-M2C929-A and WSS-M2C946-A (SAE 5W-30)
Ford WSS-M2C947-A (SAE 0W-20)
Honda/Acura HTO-06 (SAE 5W-30)[i][/i]

This oil is likely overkill for my wife's 3.6 Chevy Impala, but for the price, it was a no brainer in my opinion, and, IIRC, the Ultra flows a little better at colder temps than the Platinum does? I assume I am OK running this, but am all ears if people think I purchased the wrong oil?


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: irv] #4570087
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Originally Posted By: irv
I took back the Pennzoil Platinum I purchased the other night as I found Pennzoil Ultra Platinum today for $8.00 dollars less a jug (5ltr). I was a bit concerned not seeing the green Dexos sticker/logo on the front but when I checked their site, it says it meets/exceeds that standard.

This oil is likely overkill for my wife's 3.6 Chevy Impala, but for the price, it was a no brainer in my opinion, and, IIRC, the Ultra flows a little better at colder temps than the Platinum does? I assume I am OK running this, but am all ears if people think I purchased the wrong oil?


It still has dexos1 gen1 approval. This is about dexos1 Gen2. The biggest benefit of Gen2 is formulation that reduces the likelihood of low speed pre-ignition. If your engine isn't direct injection I wouldn't worry about it.



Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570109
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Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Originally Posted By: irv
I took back the Pennzoil Platinum I purchased the other night as I found Pennzoil Ultra Platinum today for $8.00 dollars less a jug (5ltr). I was a bit concerned not seeing the green Dexos sticker/logo on the front but when I checked their site, it says it meets/exceeds that standard.

This oil is likely overkill for my wife's 3.6 Chevy Impala, but for the price, it was a no brainer in my opinion, and, IIRC, the Ultra flows a little better at colder temps than the Platinum does? I assume I am OK running this, but am all ears if people think I purchased the wrong oil?


It still has dexos1 gen1 approval. This is about dexos1 Gen2. The biggest benefit of Gen2 is formulation that reduces the likelihood of low speed pre-ignition. If your engine isn't direct injection I wouldn't worry about it.


According to this post by, Ricky, my engine is DI.

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Greetings.

Don't let anyone talk you out of using the Dexos 1 spec oil in your 3.6.
It's Direct Injection with a very stout compression ratio.

The Dexos 1 spec is designed to address Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) among other things.

LSPI is a real concern with the combination of Direct Injection and high compression.

Good day.
[i][/i]

Based on this, would I be further ahead to go get the Pennzoil Platinum and return the Ultra?

Last edited by irv; 11/10/17 05:42 PM.

2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: bigj_16] #4570145
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
My guess is the reason PUP is not D1G2 is that PUP not longer exists.

If that's the case, wouldn't Pennzoil remove PUP from their website?


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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570148
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I just double checked and the Pennzoil Platinum I returned today was just Dexos 1, it was NOT the 2nd generation type so in conclusion, I don't think there is any difference between the Ultra I traded for and the Platinum I had previously Dexos wise? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only difference here is, I got the Ultra for $8.00 dollars cheaper and aside from the Dexos label not being on the front, I picked up a bit better oil for less money?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pennzoil-platinum-synthetic-motor-oil-5-l-0289323p.html (Has a zoom feature)


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: turnbowm] #4570153
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Originally Posted By: turnbowm
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
My guess is the reason PUP is not D1G2 is that PUP not longer exists.

If that's the case, wouldn't Pennzoil remove PUP from their website?

Let me rephrase that.PUP in its current configuration doesn't exist anymore.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: irv] #4570155
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Originally Posted By: irv
I just double checked and the Pennzoil Platinum I returned today was just Dexos 1, it was NOT the 2nd generation type so in conclusion, I don't think there is any difference between the Ultra I traded for and the Platinum I had previously Dexos wise? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only difference here is, I got the Ultra for $8.00 dollars cheaper and aside from the Dexos label not being on the front, I picked up a bit better oil for less money?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pennzoil-platinum-synthetic-motor-oil-5-l-0289323p.html (Has a zoom feature)


Yes Ultra is supposed to be better. PP Dexos1 Gen2 only became recently available so it will be hit and miss with regards to finding it on store shelves.



Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570224
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It sounds like in some areas, PUP is widely available. I’ve never seen here in the area I am in.


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Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum not dexos1 Gen2 approved? [Re: vinu_neuro] #4570239
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I just spoke to the tech line this afternoon, they are not going to pay for the approvals on UItra . It has not been has reformulated in Sept as Platinum has to meet Gen 2 . I couldn't get a Calcium # so I wont be using it on my 3.2 Ecoboost.


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