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Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open #4567037
11/07/17 04:30 PM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Good evening folks. This filter and EDGE 5w20 was off a friends 2014 F-150 pickup with the 5.0 v-8. Almost 100k on truck also. Had 2 5k ociís of EDGE 5w20 also. Put a load of EDGE 5w20 EP and a tough guard 10575 in and on. Filter was on almost 2years by the way. Iíd say it held up good smile















09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567045
11/07/17 04:44 PM
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I'd still rather have a Motorcraft on it than an ecore. smile


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Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567049
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I'd trust a second generation Ecore like this more than a Motorcraft FL-500S personally, but no longer use either Ecore nor Motorcraft oil filters.


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Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567052
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Yeah, ADBV was somewhat flexible also. I was surprised it held up this good


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567081
11/07/17 06:01 PM
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Car51 - thanks for the well done cut & post.

I found I could easily run the Champ PH820 to 6K miles. No tears or seam splits. The ADBV function is non-existent after 2K miles. In spite of this, I would run the eCore over the MotorCraft. The FL820S is an accident waiting to happen. YMMV.


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Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: WellOiled] #4567082
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Car51 - thanks for the well done cut & post.

I found I could easily run the Champ PH820 to 6K miles. No tears or seam splits. The ADBV function is non-existent after 2K miles. In spite of this, I would run the eCore over the MotorCraft. The FL820S is an accident waiting to happen. YMMV.


I agree smile and you are welcome WellOiled


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567264
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Looks good. The improved Ecores has restored my faith in them.


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2017 Jeep Renegade 2.4L (Idemitsu 0W-20)

Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: 53' Stude] #4567399
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Element looks good, they have improved the pleating and the cage. However, two years & 10k miles with the "combo valve", no thanks. Generally speaking nitrile not noted for that longevity. No big deal when it's sole function adbv, as bypass function too, another matter. And current generation GM vehicle ACDelco ecores say no entirely to combo valves.

Thanks for c&p.


Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: WellOiled] #4567441
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
The FL820S is an accident waiting to happen. YMMV.


What have I missed? I have always used this filter on both my F150 and our 3.0 Escape also uses this filter. Since 98 on the f150 and 04 on the escape, never any issues. What is the issue with them?

Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: thastinger] #4567632
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Originally Posted By: thastinger
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
The FL820S is an accident waiting to happen. YMMV.


What have I missed? I have always used this filter on both my F150 and our 3.0 Escape also uses this filter. Since 98 on the f150 and 04 on the escape, never any issues. What is the issue with them?

Motorcraft FL820S Date code: 904121217


Dome end tear.


Thread end tear.


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Re: Champ ph 500, 10,000 miles cut open [Re: Peter_480] #4568391
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Originally Posted By: Peter_480
I'd still rather have a Motorcraft on it than an ecore. smile

You've got that right! thumbsup


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