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Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 #4566789
11/07/17 01:11 PM
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Eons ago many had the experience of Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra running a bit quieter than M1. I'm wondering if that's still true. I've been using M1 EP for a while, and Pennzoil and M1 oils have been reformulated along the way. I know protection will be excellent with both.

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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566800
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Recently switched from PP to M1 in my wife's Grand Caravan. M1 seems quieter.


2013 Dodge Grand Caravan SE (Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20, WIX)
2016 Mazda6 MT (Mazda 0W-20 , OEM)
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566818
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Ran Pennzoil Ultra (SM) 5W-20 and M1 AFE (SN) 0W-20 in my 2010 FX4. No way to tell the difference between the two. I daresay the majority of the "sound detection" is placebo at best. Blind folded, I question the ability to tell the difference.


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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566849
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Not a lick of difference in any of my vehicles. I don't believe that two different brand oils of the same viscosity CAN make a significant difference in sound. I know others swear they can hear a difference... I think they're quite likely fooling themselves. Just my observation.


'66 Dodge Polara & '69 Dodge Coronet R/T both 440/727
'08 Ram 1500 4.7/545RFE
'12 Challenger SRT8 392/6-speed
'99 XJ 4x4 4.0/AX15, '14 WK2 4x4 3.6/8HP
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566852
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I may try M1 5w30 next so if its changed to be at least 1/2 decent I might stop trashing the non-synthetic "fully synthetic" oil here smile Only one time in the past 35 years - with one REAL synthetic iteration of the stuff - has an engine responded well to an influx of M1. I think it was a Mid-Nineties 1.6L Mitsubishi Mirage 2 door coupe.

In any event, 10w30 non-dexos QSUD has been the most noise abating oil used in my Rogue QR25DE aluminum engine, and the Factory Fill has been quietest in the wife's new 2.0L FB series Crosstrek, with the Dealer service fill idemitsu 0W20 the noisiest.
The older Magnatec 5w30 semi-syn would surely be a tie or runner up with the QSUD.

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 11/07/17 02:31 PM.

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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566854
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Not a chance in [censored] you can tell any difference between those 2


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2014 HD Ultra 40k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 37k Pennzoil Platinum 5w20
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566871
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Pennzoil Ultra is straight up way way for quiet than Mobil 1... Dead silent is Pennzoil Ultra. Why?? Because you can't find it anywhere in order to buy it much less run it in a motor. I want to buy it at a store like it used to be at Walmart. I have no interest in doing online purchasing for a number of years. So... Pennzoil Ultra in a landslide is WAY, above and beyond quieter than Mobil 1.

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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: 2015_PSD] #4566901
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Ran Pennzoil Ultra (SM) 5W-20 and M1 AFE (SN) 0W-20 in my 2010 FX4. No way to tell the difference between the two. I daresay the majority of the "sound detection" is placebo at best. Blind folded, I question the ability to tell the difference.


Nailed it. This.


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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: 440Magnum] #4566904
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Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Not a lick of difference in any of my vehicles. I don't believe that two different brand oils of the same viscosity CAN make a significant difference in sound. I know others swear they can hear a difference... I think they're quite likely fooling themselves. Just my observation.


I can't disagree with you logically, but when I made the switch in my wife's van, I made the same switch in my father's (his is a 2016). I said nothing about the change, and each of them separately asked me what I did to make their car run quieter/smoother. I can't explain it, but that was their perception.


2013 Dodge Grand Caravan SE (Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20, WIX)
2016 Mazda6 MT (Mazda 0W-20 , OEM)
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566912
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Not for me/Ecoboost with dB meter (best to worst)

1. M1 0w40
2. M1 5w40
3. M1 5w30 EP
4. M1 5w30
4. PP 5w30 (Ultra; never tested normal PP)

EP was quieter than PUP in the Cruze too
If I went back to RDS products would buy regular PP

Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: 2016Accord] #4566921
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Originally Posted By: 2016Accord
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Not a lick of difference in any of my vehicles. I don't believe that two different brand oils of the same viscosity CAN make a significant difference in sound. I know others swear they can hear a difference... I think they're quite likely fooling themselves. Just my observation.


I can't disagree with you logically, but when I made the switch in my wife's van, I made the same switch in my father's (his is a 2016). I said nothing about the change, and each of them separately asked me what I did to make their car run quieter/smoother. I can't explain it, but that was their perception.


I have experienced the same with other oils with members of my family. People who don't know what oil is in their cars.

Based on the feedback in this thread sounds like there is little difference these days or M1/EP is a bit better with noise.

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Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566936
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And if so how many DB's


2004 Corolla 124770
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4566941
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
And if so how many DB's


The frequencies of sounds produced also affect noise comfort.

Last edited by vinu_neuro; 11/07/17 03:59 PM.


Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: vinu_neuro] #4566942
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Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
And if so how many DB's


The frequency of sounds produced can also affect noise comfort.


Well then give me the frequency differences too.


2004 Corolla 124770
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Is Pennzoil (Ultra) Platinum still quieter than M1 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4566949
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
And if so how many DB's


The frequency of sounds produced can also affect noise comfort.


Well then give me the frequency differences too.


And you can tear down your engine and give us the wear measurements next time you make a comment on an oil.



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