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#4566341 - 11/06/17 10:04 PM Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question
Mantooth Offline


Registered: 07/26/15
Posts: 480
Loc: Southern Indiana

I'm needing to fill the reservoir tank in my Durango. Owners manual isn't much help since it only recommends the Mopar fluid and doesn't give a spec. I do know it has the 10yr/150k in it.

Today, I went to NAPA for some items. I mentioned needing a jug of coolant for my 2014 Durango and Dex-cool is what they said would work. I didn't have my glasses with me so I couldn't read the small print on the jug. After getting home, I pretty sure this is the wrong stuff.

Anyone know what brand is compatible with the factory fill? Or do I just need to bite the bullet and get a jug from the dealer?

Thanks..
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#4566354 - 11/06/17 10:22 PM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
fisher83 Offline


Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 404
Loc: Omaha, NE USA
Should be the Zerex G-05.
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#4566358 - 11/06/17 10:27 PM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: fisher83]
zrxkawboy Offline


Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 1761
Loc: SD
Originally Posted By: fisher83
Should be the Zerex G-05.


No, G-05 is HOAT...a '14 should have Chrysler's (purple) OAT. Not sure which aftermarket coolant may be compatible.
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#4566365 - 11/06/17 10:47 PM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2327
Loc: San Antonio, TX
I'd bite the bullet and get the purple Mopar coolant. There is an orange dyed Fiat coolant that's compatible but that's all I'm aware of.

I would not use Dexcool, Dexclones, or G-05 myself.

Mopar changed from G05 HOAT to their own (& Fiat) OAT in MY 2013.


Edited by Nyogtha (11/06/17 10:50 PM)
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#4566389 - 11/07/17 12:05 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
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See SAE article below

http://articles.sae.org/11284/
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#4566395 - 11/07/17 12:45 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Price for 50/50 mix on Amazon looks reasonable for top-off purposes.

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Year-Mile-Coolant-Premixed/dp/B017DP43ZC

Concentrate price on Amazon isn't outrageous either

Amazon Mopar OAT


Edited by Nyogtha (11/07/17 12:57 AM)
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#4566413 - 11/07/17 02:24 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
The_Nuke Offline


Registered: 07/21/13
Posts: 290
Loc: D/FW Metroplex
Yep, what they gave you would work in the 2012 and below models, but they moved to the OAT kind (purple kool-aid looking stuff) in 2013, so it is incompatible with yours. In fact, it's highly incompatible if I remember correctly, as in, top off with that stuff and you'll get sludge deposits pretty quickly (depending on how much is mixed in obviously).
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#4566420 - 11/07/17 03:32 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: zrxkawboy]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29764
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: zrxkawboy
Originally Posted By: fisher83
Should be the Zerex G-05.


No, G-05 is HOAT...a '14 should have Chrysler's (purple) OAT. Not sure which aftermarket coolant may be compatible.


That is correct! HOAT and OAT do not mix, mixing them causes bad problems, there is a lot of info about that on the web. 2013 was a transition year, some early 2013's had HOAT, others used OAT, at least in Wranglers, and there were a lot of problems when the two were mistakenly mixed. The good news is one is dyed orange HOAT the other, OAT is purple.

Mixing the two will cause a sludge in the cooling system, and in many cases flushing will not remove it. Replacing the radiator, thermostat, heater core, and repeated flushing of the block is the only fix, very costly.
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#4566495 - 11/07/17 06:55 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Nyogtha]
Mantooth Offline


Registered: 07/26/15
Posts: 480
Loc: Southern Indiana
I order a jug from Amazon a few week ago when I noticed it was getting low. They sent me the 5yr/100k jug instead of 10yr/150k. No issues sending it back other than it was a little of a hassle. After that, I resorted to finding a local store that had an aftermarket replacement.

Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
Price for 50/50 mix on Amazon looks reasonable for top-off purposes.

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Year-Mile-Coolant-Premixed/dp/B017DP43ZC

Concentrate price on Amazon isn't outrageous either

Amazon Mopar OAT
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#4566515 - 11/07/17 07:21 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: demarpaint]
Mantooth Offline


Registered: 07/26/15
Posts: 480
Loc: Southern Indiana
I'll just bite the bullet and drive out to my dealer a pick up a jug of Mopar coolant. Better safe than sorry.

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: zrxkawboy
Originally Posted By: fisher83
Should be the Zerex G-05.


No, G-05 is HOAT...a '14 should have Chrysler's (purple) OAT. Not sure which aftermarket coolant may be compatible.


That is correct! HOAT and OAT do not mix, mixing them causes bad problems, there is a lot of info about that on the web. 2013 was a transition year, some early 2013's had HOAT, others used OAT, at least in Wranglers, and there were a lot of problems when the two were mistakenly mixed. The good news is one is dyed orange HOAT the other, OAT is purple.

Mixing the two will cause a sludge in the cooling system, and in many cases flushing will not remove it. Replacing the radiator, thermostat, heater core, and repeated flushing of the block is the only fix, very costly.
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#4566524 - 11/07/17 07:35 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
2010Civic Offline


Registered: 12/06/14
Posts: 350
Loc: Minnesota
I agree with going to the dealer. You will pay a little extra but it isn't something you buy very often.
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#4566614 - 11/07/17 09:09 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 4203
Loc: Port Orange, Florida
Some sites say there is little difference in OAT and HOAT and others say it's like nixing cement. For top off I think you would be fine. I have seen some bad mixtures and the orange sludge that comes from it, but that was after many years and I have yet to see antifreeze litterally clog the system. Look at the head gasket sealers they send through there and that doesn't even clog it.
Glycol, dexcool or wonder coolants would be bad to mix with OAT but I think these Jeeps had more going on since it was just the Jeeps that had issues. Just my opinion and I would color match if I could in a new car.


Edited by Panzerman (11/07/17 09:10 AM)
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#4566659 - 11/07/17 09:45 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: fisher83]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 8754
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: fisher83
Should be the Zerex G-05.


NO! G-05 is now the "older" Chrysler spec coolant. The current formula is a pure OAT, not a HOAT. As such it is probably similar to DexCool, but I believe its an OAT made with an organic acid OTHER than 2 EHA found in DexCool. Until the aftermarket catches up and creates a coolant that specifically meets the FCA spec, I'll be sticking with dealer-sourced Mopar fluid for my wife's JGC. Or for top-off less than maybe a quart, just use distilled water. Its not going to shift the freeze/boil points that much.
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#4566676 - 11/07/17 09:58 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
KrisZ Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7467
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I ended up buying from the dealer when I needed to top off our minivan. I paid close to $50 for a 50/50 jug. Needles to say, I will fully switch to G-05 at about 5 year mark.
What makes this coolant so [censored] expensive?
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#4566684 - 11/07/17 10:07 AM Re: Mopar 10yr/150K Coolant question [Re: Mantooth]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12264
Loc: The Old North State
If I had to pick a current aftermarket AF for the newer FCA, it would be Peak Global Lifetime. Also a Long Life OAT AF with no 2eha found in Dex OAT.

The Amazon prices linked for the Mopar, don't look too crazy.

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