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More stuff done to the Camaro...... #4566228
11/06/17 07:37 PM
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Moog Lower Ball Joints, Lower Control Arm Bushings, Outer Tie Rods.
UMI Sway Bars with Poly end links & mounts, 35mm front, 22mm rear.
AC-Delco reman Rack & pinion.
Royal Purple Max E-Z PS fluid.
Hotchkis Super Grease (Silicone) on all the Poly bushings.
Valvoline #2 for the ball joints & tie rods.

A buddy at a local Firstone let me use their alignment rack.....
.02 degrees total toe.
-.01 degrees Camber (Both)
3.0 degrees Caster (Both)

Drives great & the bigger sways didn't alter the ride quality all that much....Not that it rode like a Cadillac in the first place. Noticeably better cornering!!





2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566242
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Swapped the Aeromotive LS1 fuel rails for some Holley LS3 fuel rails, The injector angle was a little off using LS1 fuel rails, Also swapped out the natural stainless braided lines for some line that has braided black nylon over braided stainless. Looks better with the black rails in my opinion.

Got rid of the fuel feed into the fuel pressure regulator & the "dead head" on the fuel rails, Fuel now feeds into one rail...Through the cross-over, Through the other rail, Then to the regulator.

Before


After


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566255
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In the Garage...
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Looks great man. I have aftermarket sway bars. They are awesome.
Plus a bunch of other stuff made a huge difference.


Mike
00 Trans Am WS6 5.7 LS1
02 Silverado 2500HD 6.0
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Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566256
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I put an Edelbrock strut tie bar on mine that triangulates into the firewall. That significantly improved transient turn-in. But it made the engine a royal pain to work on.

I have about -1 deg. camber dialed into mine. Tire wear is OK. The track time that I put on it balances out the wear.

I put on a 32mm front bar when the original Z28 bar broke in 2015. I thought about changing the rear bar when I did the front, as I thought it might make the car understeer, but decided to try it out on track first. It didn't seem to affect over/understeer balance, and the car cornered flatter. A really good way to mess up the handling of a car is to put on a rear sway bar that is too big. I figured if the bigger front bar made it too understeery, I could balance it out by juggling tire pressures (more in front, or less in rear).

Last edited by A_Harman; 11/06/17 08:08 PM.

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Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566257
11/06/17 08:08 PM
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Aeroforce Scan Gauge so I can monitor Transmission Temp. Made the mount plate out of a dial caliper storage case I had laying around. Deleted the "Cubby" that I didn't use.



2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566269
11/06/17 08:21 PM
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You planning on taking it to the drag strip at all to see what it runs?


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566270
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Do I spy a Dana 60 lurking back there? Looks great, has plenty of rear axle! Which is a sharp contrast to how they were originally delivered! The 4L80E is also a nice touch, how much stall? Cam and engine specs?


Luke
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Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: ls1mike] #4566274
11/06/17 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Looks great man. I have aftermarket sway bars. They are awesome.
Plus a bunch of other stuff made a huge difference.


Thanks Mike, I'd like to see some pictures of your Bird....You can post them on this thread if you want.


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: A_Harman] #4566282
11/06/17 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I put an Edelbrock strut tie bar on mine that triangulates into the firewall. That significantly improved transient turn-in. But it made the engine a royal pain to work on.

I have about -1 deg. camber dialed into mine. Tire wear is OK. The track time that I put on it balances out the wear.

I put on a 32mm front bar when the original Z28 bar broke in 2015. I thought about changing the rear bar when I did the front, as I thought it might make the car understeer, but decided to try it out on track first. It didn't seem to affect over/understeer balance, and the car cornered flatter. A really good way to mess up the handling of a car is to put on a rear sway bar that is too big. I figured if the bigger front bar made it too understeery, I could balance it out by juggling tire pressures (more in front, or less in rear).


I've read that 4th gens don't need a strut tower brace as the towers are so big....But I value your input on this! Do you think a simple single bar across the strut towers would be OK? Triangulated might interfere with my 4L80E dipstick.


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566290
11/06/17 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: clinebarger
I've read that 4th gens don't need a strut tower brace as the towers are so big


That's silly. Metal thickness, composition, and shape are what matter. If sheer size were what mattered, they would be able to build skyscrapers without so many of those pesky girders.

Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4566312
11/06/17 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Do I spy a Dana 60 lurking back there? Looks great, has plenty of rear axle! Which is a sharp contrast to how they were originally delivered! The 4L80E is also a nice touch, how much stall? Cam and engine specs?


Yes sir, Strange Dana 60 3.54:1 with a Eaton TrueTrac.

3400rpm 245mm Circle D Billet Cover converter.

Stock L92 6.2L long block freshened with new Insert's & Cam Bearings, LS3 hollow intake valves, Dual BTR springs, Hardened push rods, LS6 oil pump, Hinson C7-R timing chain.
Camshaft specs....
LSA 114
ICL 110
Duration @0.50" 220/230
Lift 579"/.562"
Chassis Dyno.....407 RWHP/444 RWTQ


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566386
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Very nice!!!


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Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: clinebarger] #4566662
11/07/17 09:47 AM
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Love that generation F-car. I like the scan gauge job, looks very professional.

Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: Ethan1] #4567208
11/07/17 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ethan1
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
I've read that 4th gens don't need a strut tower brace as the towers are so big


That's silly. Metal thickness, composition, and shape are what matter. If sheer size were what mattered, they would be able to build skyscrapers without so many of those pesky girders.


Shear size wasn't exactly what I meant, They a double walled & pretty strong. But I don't know how much they flex.
The Subframe connectors that I welded in made a big difference in the stiffness & handling.


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
Re: More stuff done to the Camaro...... [Re: GMBoy] #4567212
11/07/17 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Love that generation F-car. I like the scan gauge job, looks very professional.


It's OK, Don't care for A-Pillar gauges!


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/U341E
2000 Toyota Avalon 1MZ-FE/A541E
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