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#4566165 - 11/06/17 06:34 PM So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience
rocky8314 Offline


Registered: 05/12/14
Posts: 27
Loc: mi
Mom's 2007 Kia Sedona 148,000 miles

-Left Valve Cover Gasket leak
-Brake light switch

Sisters 2008 Honda Odyssey 154,000 miles

-A/C Compressor
-Alternator
-Starter
-Power steering pump Leak
-Control arm bushings
-Engine mounts
-Sliding door jammed up
-Oil burning
-Trans slipping

Both bought in 2011 and my sister paid 6k more, would have never believed it before.

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#4566168 - 11/06/17 06:37 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
My mom's Kia Spectra - 330,000km - 2 Oxygen sensors, brakes, tires, battery.

Then she goes and buys a Dodge Journey and it has had 5 recalls and minor things broken like the folding sunglass holder, one door lock, rear wiper that seems to come on, on its own. (40,000km on hers)

My Journey has been less than stealar as well. (2 Alternators, Light almost caught fire, 5 recalls, A/C that doesn't work properly - 80,000km)

My Hyundai Santa Fe. Super reliable with minimal replacements up until 535,000km (Oxygen Sensors, Alternator, Starter, Battery) A/C still worked!



Edited by StevieC (11/06/17 06:39 PM)
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'15 Dodge Journey - 90,000 KM's - SSO 5w20
'06 Hyundai Santa Fe - 535,000km - SSO 0w30 (R.I.P)

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#4566169 - 11/06/17 06:39 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
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Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10313
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Hyundai and Kia make great cars, probably on average not quite up to par with the Japanese but close enough.

I bought my 2015 Sonata in February for $10k. The cheapest 2015+ Camry within 100miles was $14k cheapest, 2015+ Accord was $16k. Cheapest 2015 Cruze (yuck) was $11k.

My car's engine and transmission could both go out tomorrow and after salvage low mileage replacements installed, I'd still be ahead.

I don't think they'll both blow tomorrow though.
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#4566175 - 11/06/17 06:43 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
JBinTX30 Offline


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 477
Loc: Texas
My 03 Spectra had 229k when I got rid of it. Only work It had was a transmission change. And the usual maintenance items. The original trans had 174k on it and had the original fluid and metal shavings in it. IMO the weakest part the 00-03 spectra was the auto trans, the manual rock solid.
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#4566176 - 11/06/17 06:43 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: StevieC]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10313
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: StevieC
My mom's Kia Spectra - 330,000km - 2 Oxygen sensors, brakes, tires, battery.

Then she goes and buys a Dodge Journey and it has had 5 recalls and minor things broken like the folding sunglass holder, one door lock, rear wiper that seems to come on, on its own. (40,000km on hers)

My Journey has been less than stealar as well. (2 Alternators, Light almost caught fire, 5 recalls, A/C that doesn't work properly - 80,000km)

My Hyundai Santa Fe. Super reliable with minimal replacements up until 535,000km (Oxygen Sensors, Alternator, Starter, Battery) A/C still worked!

And you didn't get another Santa Fe just because of Direct Injection?
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#4566186 - 11/06/17 06:52 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: StevieC]
rocky8314 Offline


Registered: 05/12/14
Posts: 27
Loc: mi
Originally Posted By: StevieC
My mom's Kia Spectra - 330,000km - 2 Oxygen sensors, brakes, tires, battery.

Then she goes and buys a Dodge Journey and it has had 5 recalls and minor things broken like the folding sunglass holder, one door lock, rear wiper that seems to come on, on its own. (40,000km on hers)

My Journey has been less than stealar as well. (2 Alternators, Light almost caught fire, 5 recalls, A/C that doesn't work properly - 80,000km)

My Hyundai Santa Fe. Super reliable with minimal replacements up until 535,000km (Oxygen Sensors, Alternator, Starter, Battery) A/C still worked!



The Sedona I swear it shifts like new and the 3.8 engine feels powerful, I think it will hit 200k easily. I'm impressed by the low overall cost so far.

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#4566187 - 11/06/17 06:52 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
No actually I was in a pinch and needed a vehicle for work and the Santa Fe I would have had to order but the Journey was on the lot. My dad's Chrysler retiree discount came into play and well I shouldn't have listened. There is also limited vehicles that my bad back co-operates with so a lot of other choices were out because of uncomfortable seat positions.

We all make bad decisions at times. This was mine. LOL


Edited by StevieC (11/06/17 06:54 PM)
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#4566188 - 11/06/17 06:53 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
92saturnsl2 Offline


Registered: 03/02/04
Posts: 1300
Loc: Flaherty, KY
If the 06-10+(?) Sedona didn't look so awfully cheap, we would have considered it as a family hauler. We had an '07 Sedona as a service vehicle where I worked a few years ago; it ran and rode fine, but I felt like I was riding in something where they just did a whole bunch of cost cutting. The newer ones look sharp, but I can't get past those years' interiors. The radio/center console and instrument panel are especially painful to look at.
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#4566190 - 11/06/17 06:55 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: JBinTX30]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: JBinTX30
My 03 Spectra had 229k when I got rid of it. Only work It had was a transmission change. And the usual maintenance items. The original trans had 174k on it and had the original fluid and metal shavings in it. IMO the weakest part the 00-03 spectra was the auto trans, the manual rock solid.


174K without a fluid change and it was a weak point? My mom's said to change at 60,000 miles (100,000km)


Edited by StevieC (11/06/17 06:56 PM)
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#4566191 - 11/06/17 06:55 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: 92saturnsl2]
rocky8314 Offline


Registered: 05/12/14
Posts: 27
Loc: mi
Originally Posted By: 92saturnsl2
If the 06-09(?) Sedona didn't look so awfully cheap, we would have considered it as a family hauler. We had an '07 Sedona as a service vehicle where I worked a few years ago; it ran and rode fine, but I felt like I was riding in something where they just did a whole bunch of cost cutting. The newer ones look sharp, but I can't get past those years' interiors. The radio/center console and instrument panel are especially painful to look at.


Agree it does look cheap inside, Odyssey way nicer interior and it has a better ride.

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#4566221 - 11/06/17 07:29 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
laserred96gt Offline


Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 899
Loc: Florida
The attitude of the driver has a lot to do with reliability of the vehicle.
Mom driving > Sister driving.
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#4566224 - 11/06/17 07:36 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: laserred96gt]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10313
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: laserred96gt
The attitude of the driver has a lot to do with reliability of the vehicle.
Mom driving > Sister driving.
Even driving a car like a race car it's whole life isn't going to change the life of the a/c compressor, alternator, starter, power steering pump, or burning oil. Might contribute to the others but I doubt it.

People always say if you take care of a car it'll last a long time. I don't believe that. Standard maintenance of course but on some cars stereos burning out, throttle bodies dying, steering racks going out, catalytic converters, etc. it doesn't matter how much love you have for a car, those items will die whenever they want to.
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#4566233 - 11/06/17 07:44 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
ATex7239 Offline


Registered: 01/19/17
Posts: 331
Loc: Texas,USA
Kia has been coming up in the world
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'17 Ford Fusion (Company Lease) 42,xxx
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#4566236 - 11/06/17 07:48 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
rocky8314 Offline


Registered: 05/12/14
Posts: 27
Loc: mi
Watch because of this post the kia dies tomorrow and the odyssey keeps slippin it's way to 200k lol

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#4566275 - 11/06/17 08:25 PM Re: So far Kia>>>Honda..My experience [Re: rocky8314]
HoosierJeeper Offline


Registered: 11/23/16
Posts: 1276
Loc: WI
I think Kia and Hyundai stuff is great if you want something that all you do is drive. I think they look cooler than Japanese cars.
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