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Who really looks at oil specs anyway? #4565937
11/06/17 02:54 PM
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ZZman Offline OP
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I always thought if you bought the latest name brand oil in the proper weight your vehicle calls for, that you were good to go. Now I see people talking about specs....
Ford this.... GM blah blah.... BMW such and such....

Last edited by ZZman; 11/06/17 02:56 PM.

2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Amsoil Metric 10w-40
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565942
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Was there a question here, or...?


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565948
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It took you over 4500 posts to notice?

Blind ignorance will get you nowhere.


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565952
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
I always thought if you bought the latest name brand oil in the proper weight your vehicle calls for, that you were good to go.

Many modern vehicles call for more than just "proper weight."

Reading the owner's manual is a good start.


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: kschachn] #4565953
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
It took you over 4500 posts to notice?

Blind ignorance will get you nowhere.

Eh, it's not unusual to be a bit grumpy when you realize you may have been unaware of something important for years. No need to rub his face in it.

I'm just wondering what the point here was, if anything...


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565958
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I believe that is how most people buy motor oil. And in all honesty, very few have any issues so long as the oil level is checked.

My neighbor uses MS5K 5W30 in his 2013 Merc CLA turbo. Says he's been using it since new. What ever makes you happy...and he is. smile


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565960
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As a Ford Powerstroke Diesel owner who values his warranty, I do. But then again, I always did like the details.


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2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: 2015_PSD] #4565962
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
But then again, I always did like the details.


+1

Thankfully none of my vehicles have any specific requirements other than API SN.


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565963
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What is Bitog for if not to obsess over specifications and such? laugh


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565968
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For my old 2004 VW Passat the owners manual didn't contain the correct details of what oil was to be used, VW sent out updates to the owners manual( German 4 ring binder) to replace pages in same.

Then about 4 years ago, VW sent me another oil update and a sticker to affix in the engine bay to reference the proper oil spec to be used.

I read, I follow, I respect that oils are evolving and the OEM's can change their advice based on owner feedback and warranty claims.


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Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4565983
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Shouldn't any decent name brand motor oil of the proper weight be safe and acceptable? I wouldn't think any catastrophic event would happen if you didn't.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Amsoil Metric 10w-40
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: d00df00d] #4565986
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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Eh, it's not unusual to be a bit grumpy when you realize you may have been unaware of something important for years. No need to rub his face in it.

Oh come on, this is beyond ridiculous. Someone who has been on this board for nearly 10 years with over 4500 posts asks this question?

Please. This is the definition of a troll post.


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1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: kschachn] #4565989
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
It took you over 4500 posts to notice?

Blind ignorance will get you nowhere.


Since I drive run of the mill cars and oils I buy said GM, Ford, Chrysler etc on the bottles I never dove into whether those specs exactly related to my cars or not.
Kind of like the bulk oil deal at oil changes places.. Specs?

Last edited by ZZman; 11/06/17 04:01 PM.

2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Amsoil Metric 10w-40
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: kschachn] #4565991
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Eh, it's not unusual to be a bit grumpy when you realize you may have been unaware of something important for years. No need to rub his face in it.

Oh come on, this is beyond ridiculous. Someone who has been on this board for nearly 10 years with over 4500 posts asks this question?

Please. This is the definition of a troll post.


Oh I have seen people mention specs before but I see that more of a concern with exotics or European cars. I didn't really think people who drove American or Asian made cars were that concerned.

Last edited by ZZman; 11/06/17 04:01 PM.

2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Amsoil Metric 10w-40
Re: Who really looks at oil specs anyway? [Re: ZZman] #4566001
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
Shouldn't any decent name brand motor oil of the proper weight be safe and acceptable? I wouldn't think any catastrophic event would happen if you didn't.

Different engines have different oil requirements. You put an oil with a regular/rich additive pack into a modern diesel engine, you might have issues with DPF, just to give one example.

In the race for max performance/max fuel economy/long maintenance intervals, engine manufacturers are now designing engines that can be tough on oil. Basic API specs don't go far enough in protecting these modern engines, so engine manufacturers have bypassed API and came out with their own much more stringent specs.


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'18 Charger SRT (FF)
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