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Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? #4564980
11/05/17 02:43 PM
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irv Offline OP
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Hi all. I just purchased this car yesterday, a 2017 Impala Premier with the 3.6, and I am curious what oil/filter I should use?
Come to think of it, I am not even sure of the weight, but I assume 10W-30? I have exclusively run Pennzoil 5W-20 platinum full synthetic in my 13 Ram Hemi after reading about it in here back in 13.

Should I continue down that road with our new (to us) 2017 Impala? The car has just over 20,000 km's (12,500 miles) on it and the dealer is going to do an oil change on it (he says) before we pick it up. It was purchased at a Ford dealer by the way so I assume Ford oil will be used? I'm anal and not knowing the oil they will likely use, I'll likely change it out at the first chance I get, or am I just being silly?

Thanks in advance.

Irv


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4564984
11/05/17 02:48 PM
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You need something that is dexos1. I'm not sure whether your car calls for 5w30 or 5w20 or 0w20, but probably one of those. The PP 5w20 is probably ok to use in your new Impala too.

For the filter, use Wix, Wix XP, or Fram Ultra

Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4564987
11/05/17 02:55 PM
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I have a 2013 with the same engine. I have used both Mobil 1 5W-30 and Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30. No real difference between the two. For a filter I have used the AC Delco non ecore. They are probably getting harder to find (think ebay). I have no proof the Ecore is inferior, after all the dealerships are using them, but I just decided being an old man I would stick with "old school". LOL. I bought a case shortly after buying the car and have just about used them up. I might move on to a Fram Ultra next.

I just got back from a 3,000 mile road trip in my Impala. The car ran great, handle very well in all sorts of weather. Got as high as 32.9 MPG on one tankful, averaged just under 30 MPG for the entire trip.

I found the computer MPG calculator to be extremely accurate. Usually it was within a couple of tenths of a MPG of the "hand figured" numbers. On a couple of tankfuls, the numbers were exactly the same.

Edit: According to the owners manual, the 3.6 V6 still uses 5W-30. The 2.5 L4 uses 5W-20 oil, meeting Dexos 1 specification.

Last edited by oldmaninsc; 11/05/17 03:01 PM.

2017 Chevrolet Traverse
2013 Chevrolet Impala LT
2005 Toyota Camry LE
2004 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, 1998 Ford F-150 XLT


Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4564989
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Go with what the manual recommends.
Probably 0W-20 with Dexos1 Gen 2 rating. I would use OEM Delco filter.


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2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
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Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4564991
11/05/17 02:59 PM
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irv Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
You need something that is dexos1. I'm not sure whether your car calls for 5w30 or 5w20 or 0w20, but probably one of those. The PP 5w20 is probably ok to use in your new Impala too.

For the filter, use Wix, Wix XP, or Fram Ultra


Thanks. I do remember reading Dexos on the filler cap when I was inspecting/looking under the hood. If I recall correctly, but will verify first before purchase, I think I read 5W-30, but it might have read 10W, I can't remember?

I currently use CarQuest Premium Filters on my Hemi, so I may look into one of those for this Impala too? Heard and read, they are great filters and are made by Wix anyways?
Will the PP be Dexos compatible and OK to use or do I need something entirely different because of the Dexos requirement?
Thanks!


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4564993
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A new Chevy will run a Dexos1 oil. It's the GM oil spec and many oils carry that spec M1, Edge, Magnatec, PP, Synpower etc

What weight / grade does the manual say ?

Also does the manual say anything about Dexos1 - Generation 2 ? As they have just brought out Gen2 of Dexos and it will be good to know which generation you requie. The Gen2 stuff is backwards compatible with Gen1 stuff, so this is always a safe bet to go Gen2. But it may not be required and it's sounds like Gen1 stuff is easier to find right now, but this should soon change as they roll out the new generation of Dexos.


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Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: SR5] #4564996
11/05/17 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: SR5
A new Chevy will run a Dexos1 oil. It's the GM oil spec and many oils carry that spec M1, Edge, Magnatec, PP, Synpower etc

What weight / grade does the manual say ?

Also does the manual say anything about Dexos1 - Generation 2 ? As they have just brought out Gen2 of Dexos and it will be good to know which generation you requie. The Gen2 stuff is backwards compatible with Gen1 stuff, so this is always a safe bet to go Gen2. But it may not be required and it's sounds like Gen1 stuff is easier to find right now, but this should soon change as they roll out the new generation of Dexos.


From page 257: "Specification:
Ask for and use engine oils that
meet the dexos1

specification.
Engine oils that have been
approved by GM as meeting the
dexos1 specification are marked
with the dexos1 approved logo. See
www.gmdexos.com."


"Use SAE 5W-30 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 3.6L V6 engine.

Vehicle Care
Use SAE 5W-20 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 2.5L L4 engine.
SAE 0W-20 may be used as an
alternative."

Sorry don't know how to take a screen shot of a pdf file, so I did a cut and paste. Hope this helps answer the questions.

Last edited by oldmaninsc; 11/05/17 03:06 PM.

2017 Chevrolet Traverse
2013 Chevrolet Impala LT
2005 Toyota Camry LE
2004 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, 1998 Ford F-150 XLT


Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: SR5] #4564999
11/05/17 03:09 PM
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irv Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: SR5
A new Chevy will run a Dexos1 oil. It's the GM oil spec and many oils carry that spec M1, Edge, Magnatec, PP, Synpower etc

What weight / grade does the manual say ?

Also does the manual say anything about Dexos1 - Generation 2 ? As they have just brought out Gen2 of Dexos and it will be good to know which generation you require. The Gen2 stuff is backwards compatible with Gen1 stuff, so this is always a safe bet to go Gen2. But it may not be required and it's sounds like Gen1 stuff is easier to find right now, but this should soon change as they roll out the new generation of Dexos.


I don't have the manual as I don't get the car until Wednesday, but I should have grabbed it yesterday but it didn't even cross my mind! (Bang head!)


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: oldmaninsc] #4565000
11/05/17 03:11 PM
11/05/17 03:11 PM
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irv Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: oldmaninsc
Originally Posted By: SR5
A new Chevy will run a Dexos1 oil. It's the GM oil spec and many oils carry that spec M1, Edge, Magnatec, PP, Synpower etc

What weight / grade does the manual say ?

Also does the manual say anything about Dexos1 - Generation 2 ? As they have just brought out Gen2 of Dexos and it will be good to know which generation you requie. The Gen2 stuff is backwards compatible with Gen1 stuff, so this is always a safe bet to go Gen2. But it may not be required and it's sounds like Gen1 stuff is easier to find right now, but this should soon change as they roll out the new generation of Dexos.


From page 257: "Specification:
Ask for and use engine oils that
meet the dexos1

specification.
Engine oils that have been
approved by GM as meeting the
dexos1 specification are marked
with the dexos1 approved logo. See
www.gmdexos.com."


"Use SAE 5W-30 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 3.6L V6 engine.

Vehicle Care
Use SAE 5W-20 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 2.5L L4 engine.
SAE 0W-20 may be used as an
alternative."

Sorry don't know how to take a screen shot of a pdf file, so I did a cut and paste. Hope this helps answer the questions.


That's a great Help! Thanks!


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: oldmaninsc] #4565015
11/05/17 03:24 PM
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Thanks mate.

Sounds like a 5W-30 Dexos1 oil for the OP's car.

OP if you like PP then Pennzoil Plat 5W30 is a very good oil. It's certainly Dexos1 - Gen1, and if it's not Gen2 now then it very soon will be. It's also carries Euro A5/B5 which is a very high quality oil standard.


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Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4565017
11/05/17 03:25 PM
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I guess, like all manufacturers, they really try and peddle their own stuff. I don't think I'd have any issues using it but experience tells me it is likely expensive and likely not any better than what you can buy elsewhere for cheaper?
http://www.gmdexos.com/owner/

I will ask the Ford dealer Wednesday if they used Dexos oil in it? LOL. Like I mentioned, I'll likely change it out anyways just for peace of mind know the right stuff and the right amount are in there.
http://www.colonyfordlincoln.com/used/Ch...ba6cf2a2c4b.htm


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: SR5] #4565018
11/05/17 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: SR5
Thanks mate.

Sounds like a 5W-30 Dexos1 oil for the OP's car.

OP if you like PP then Pennzoil Plat 5W30 is a very good oil. It's certainly Dexos1 - Gen1, and if it's not Gen2 now then it very soon will be. It's also carries Euro A5/B5 which is a very high quality oil standard.


That's good to know! Thank you very much!


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4565113
11/05/17 05:04 PM
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M1 5w30. Dexos1 gen2 certified and available everywhere. They run rebates a couple times a year


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Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4565194
11/05/17 06:22 PM
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I have the GM 3.6 in my 2017 GMC Canyon and I think it is the same family of motor at your Impala. It calls for a 5W-30 Dexos rated oil. I used Pennzoil Semi Synthetic for my first change but will use full synthetic from now on. My engine does not use a spin on filter. It has the filter housing mounted on top of the engine and uses a cartridge type filter. I ordered a case of Delco jobber filters from Amazon.

Re: Oil/filter for a 2017 3.6 Chev Impala? [Re: irv] #4565208
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Greetings.

Don't let anyone talk you out of using the Dexos 1 spec oil in your 3.6.
It's Direct Injection with a very stout compression ratio.

The Dexos 1 spec is designed to address Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI) among other things.

LSPI is a real concern with the combination of Direct Injection and high compression.

Good day.

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