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Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? #4563713
11/04/17 09:36 AM
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I just started using the Castrol 0W40 Edge synthetic oil in a 2006 Jeep Rubicon 4.0L I-6 ...Looks to be an ideal long mileage oil designed for BMW , VW , etc. A3/B4 oil which I plan to run 10K OCI's with a Fram Ultra oil filter . It's an interesting 0W40 oil - different than say the 0W40 M1 oil that has different specifications ... Your thoughts ?


2017 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L GDI 4 cylinder
2010 Hyundai Elantra 2.0L 4 cylinder
2007 Kia Sedona 3.8L 6 cylinder
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563737
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Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
It's an interesting 0W40 oil - different than say the 0W40 M1 oil that has different specifications ... Your thoughts ?

M1 0w40 and edge 0w40 carry nearly the same specifications and are targeting the exact same Euro market.

M1 recently stopped carrying the bmw ll01 spec... lots of threads and speculation about it on BITOG.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563748
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Edge 0w-40 is a fantastic oil. Iíve been using it for a while now. Itís a true GroupIV oil with a very stout additive pack... all for less than $5 a quart. Hard to beat. Itís one of those oils, like M1 0w-40, that you could probably use in just about any application with great results.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563749
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I happen to think Edge 0w40 is a near perfect match for the old 4.0 if you are going to run full syn in it. About the perfect viscosity and starts well at all temps. I ran it in mine for close to 11k (single OCI). Would have refilled with it but did not since the Jeep may be sold soon. So it got GTX instead.

Mine ran great on it, the 4.0 tends to like oils with strong add packs IMO and Edge 0w40 has got it. I did not do a UOA but was likely dumping oil that still had some good life in it at 11k. Gotta love the Euro oils for long OCI's.

I am very sold on this oil and am running it in our KIA as well for 10k OCI's, need to change it today in fact I am over 10k.


09 Lincoln MKZ AWD 97k - M1 AFE 0w30
12 KIA Sedona 91k - PP HM 10w30
09 Ford Focus 131k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
00 Chev Lumina 201k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee gone but not forgotten.
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563762
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Plus 1 KCJEEP AS Iím gonna put some EDGE 0w40 in the Camry today or tomorrow smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563770
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Castrol Edge 0w-40 is quite different in add pack (high mag, lower calcium) vs. Mobil 1 0w-40 (high Ca, high Moly/Boron). There are relatively few A3/B3 certified oils that are high magnesium. Castrol Edge 0w-40 is one of them. Just looking at the add packs, I would think M1 is the stronger one. Castrol 'may" have the Edge on holding viscosity/less shearing....just a guess though....as it still carries the LL-01 cert.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563796
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Well, as we all learned; there is a definition of ďstrongerĒ and ďbetterĒ smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563804
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I recently switched from Castrol EDGE 5W-30 Extended Performance to the Castrol EDGE 0W-40 you're referring to in my little Toyota Tacoma with 175,000 miles.

I can't say I notice a difference using one versus the other, but at least my truck doesn't leak (knock on wood) and passes the smog test with flying colors!

smile

Ed


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Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563924
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Been running it ever since I got my first VW back in 2013. Used it just about everything we had, the old Equinox, Expedition. Would run it in the Jetta for a yearly OCI which equaled anything from 5K to 8K a year. Doing 5K max in the GTI now.


'17 VW GTI 2.0T - 6MT - 9K - Edge 0w40
'15 Camry SE - 2.5 - 20K - PP 0w20
'99 S10 - 2.2 5MT - 155K - T6 0w40
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563928
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I've used either. Goes in a Mercedes E-350. They do have a sticker on the car which recommends Mobil 1 and that's what they stock at the dealership although I think they have one 5w40 that isn't normally sold at retail. But I got a bunch of Castrol 0w40 and 0w30 at Autozone for $2/quart so I'm still using it up. I've been doing 9-10k oil changes on it, seems fine, but then again, they both meet MB 229.5 which is what the car calls for.

Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4563930
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Lilí off topic here but why did M1 drop the BMW spec? Canít find a answer to this


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: 53' Stude] #4563942
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Originally Posted By: car51
Lilí off topic here but why did M1 drop the BMW spec? Canít find a answer to this

There was a thread in January of 2016 about it, at the time I had a new container that still had the certification. A guess on my part is that it was either late 2015 or very early 2016.

Actually here is a post (from that thread) where the poster says November 2015:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3989558/Re:_Oil_recommendation_for_my_#Post3989558


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4564099
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Edge 0W-40 is a great PAO Group IV based Euro long life oil. It has all the certs SN, A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40 with a TBN above 10 and a Noack below 10%.

In Europe many people run it for something like 2 years and 20,000 miles which is a bit long for me, but it shows you what it is capable of.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4564107
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Here is an Edge 0W40 VOA (Link) that gives it 1090 ppm Zinc. Which is typical of these 40 grade A3/B4 Euro long-life oils. It also shows a KV100 of 13.45 cSt and what I take to be a TBN of 10.25 based on a Ca (1878 ppm) and Mg (513 ppm) detergent package.

Also from another thread we are given these values
Quote:
NOACK 9.1%
MRV 22,800 @ -40C
HTHS 3.7 cst (from Edge tds)


Ref: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3011024

Last edited by SR5; 11/04/17 04:51 PM.

Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Any Castrol 0W40 Edge Synthetic Users ? [Re: ChrisD46] #4564133
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Here is a Edge 0W-40 UOA from mid 2015
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3840615/

It shows
Ti 48 ppm
Ca 1986 ppm
Mg 615 ppm
Zn 1188 ppm
As the significant metallic adds

And another UOA here from 2017
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4560360/
Ti 50 ppm
Ca 2399 ppm
Mg 169 ppm
Zn 1051 ppm
B 31 ppm






Last edited by SR5; 11/04/17 05:33 PM.

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