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base oil / liqui moly ? #4563353
11/03/17 07:12 PM
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Hi

Do someone know which group of base oil liquid moly use for their engine oils? thx

Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563355
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Originally Posted By: ST2008
Hi

Do someone know which group of base oil liquid moly use for their engine oils? thx

Which of their oils? They have many.

If it is labeled as "Technosythese" it is Group 3.

Not sure about the others. I would assume primarily Group 4 PAO.


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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: rooflessVW] #4563359
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: ST2008
Hi

Do someone know which group of base oil liquid moly use for their engine oils? thx

Which of their oils? They have many.

If it is labeled as "Technosythese" it is Group 3.

Not sure about the others. I would assume primarily Group 4 PAO.


I'm not sure which one. To make a story short, I called a high performance Porsche dealership and they told me that they use only liqui moly for their customer's car. I'm curious about why they use only this oil because now I'm trying to find an European engine oil with group V as base oil (ester)for some tests.

Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563401
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Originally Posted By: ST2008
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: ST2008
Hi

Do someone know which group of base oil liquid moly use for their engine oils? thx

Which of their oils? They have many.

If it is labeled as "Technosythese" it is Group 3.

Not sure about the others. I would assume primarily Group 4 PAO.

I'm not sure which one. To make a story short, I called a high performance Porsche dealership and they told me that they use only liqui moly for their customer's car. I'm curious about why they use only this oil because now I'm trying to find an European engine oil with group V as base oil (ester)for some tests.

They use Liqui Moly because it gives many owners of German cars "the warm and fuzzies." The same shops swear by it because shop owners and many mechanics really don't know any better.

As I understand it, Redline is pretty much your choice if you want a bunch of Group 5 Esters.


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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563412
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OK, thanks for your helps!

Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563464
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Motul 300V ...


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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563467
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RLI may be another option...

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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: rooflessVW] #4563517
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Originally Posted By: ST2008
I'm trying to find an European engine oil with group V as base oil (ester)for some tests.


Don't be fooled into thinking *just because* it's group V that it is an ester.
Besides, Higher ester isn't necessarily a good thing.

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW

As I understand it, Redline is pretty much your choice if you want a bunch of Group 5 Esters.


I don't so anymore - not since they reformulated it. It's pretty much PAO now.


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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563528
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Yeah, go Motul 300V,Redline or Neo Synthetic.


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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4563626
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Originally Posted By: ST2008

If it is labeled as "Technosythese" it is Group 3.

Not sure about the others. I would assume primarily Group 4 PAO.




This is correct. In Europe they have to call it "synthetic technology" if uses as primary base oil, Group III hydro-isomerized petroleum (ultra-refined conventional oil). If labeled as synthetic or full synthetic then would be a Group IV or V base. Or at least that's how it used to be.



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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: ST2008] #4564291
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Liqui-Moly is all Group 3 in North America except for Synthoil Energy. I think their 10w-60 is even Group 3 now.

I would choose Castrol or Mobil 1 over Liqui-Moly any day.

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Re: base oil / liqui moly ? [Re: LoneRanger] #4564430
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Originally Posted By: ST2008

If it is labeled as "Technosythese" it is Group 3.

Not sure about the others. I would assume primarily Group 4 PAO.




This is correct. In Europe they have to call it "synthetic technology" if uses as primary base oil, Group III hydro-isomerized petroleum (ultra-refined conventional oil). If labeled as synthetic or full synthetic then would be a Group IV or V base. Or at least that's how it used to be.

Germany only, not Europe.


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