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OEM tire size or smaller for winter? #4562327
11/02/17 06:20 PM
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Hi all, for some reason my 2007 Corolla CE came stock with 195-65-15 tires (I bought the car used, so i dont know if it was 195 or 185 from new... the car had 195's on when i bought it) I always just bought 195-65-15 tires and never thought twice. The 2007 Corolla CE was also sold with 185-65-15 tires and I got to thinking about possibly buying a new set of winter tires and I know that a smaller contact patch may provide better winter performance (more weight per square inch). It will result in my speedometer in being 2% faster than speedometer amount or will it? I guess what I am saying is.. if the car came stock with 185 on some and 195 on others, how would I be able to tell what mine is stock with? What do I need to look for? If my car came stock with 185's than 185's should have no impact on the speedo?

Stock options were:
195/65/15 89S 6X15
or
185/65/15 86S 5X15

Does anyone know what is meant by 6X15 and 5X15? I know 86 is a lower load rating though.

Thoughts and advice please!

A) How do I tell what my car came with originally
B) Is it worth running narrower tires in winter or should i just go with 195's again?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562332
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What does the tire placard on your door or B pillar say? That usually lists the size that the car came with from the factory. Or are both sizes listed there?


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562334
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I think you might be over thinking it. That's a pretty small difference and I doubt the speedo would've been calibrated differently between the two. Check the door sticker for the stock size.

I don't really think either would work differently in the snow. I'd just go with which size has better tire options, personally.


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4562339
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
What does the tire placard on your door or B pillar say? That usually lists the size that the car came with from the factory. Or are both sizes listed there?


I should of known that! Thank you! It does actually say 195-65-15.


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562340
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The factory size for your car (According to Tire Rack) is 185/65-15.

I would stick with that size, since there is really no cost savings with the wider size, and a narrower tire is more advantageous in the snow.

Here's a nice article on selecting sizes for winter tires: https://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=126

Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562342
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Does anyone know what is meant by 6X15 and 5X15?

These are rim sizes... 15 inches diameter, 6 (or 5) inches width.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Padawan] #4562352
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Originally Posted By: Padawan

I would stick with that size, since there is really no cost savings with the wider size, and a narrower tire is more advantageous in the snow.



Not to mention will get better fuel economy.


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562368
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So stock size on my door placard states 195, so use 195 or go smaller?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562377
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
So stock size on my door placard states 195, so use 195 or go smaller?
Use whatever is cheapest


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562381
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As narrow as is recommended for your car. Works best in snow.


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2007 Honda Accord EX-L 4Door V6 6MT
Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562405
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All the above answers are true in a perfect world.

195/65/15 is more common though and in the "Champiros" I buy they come with a (XL) load rating of 95 which is a lot more than the 185 size comes with. If I get a flat in the middle of winter I feel I'm more likely to find a matching tread in 195 b/c they make more of them.

That all said they have also been MUCH cheaper on DTD sales.

I bought one set for the wife's HHR that originally took 215s under the "skinnier" premise. Now they're remounted on prius rims by virtue of... I already own the tires. Prius started with 185s.

Am I rambling? Just consider both sizes and see what's out there for variety.

Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: eljefino] #4562418
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
All the above answers are true in a perfect world.

195/65/15 is more common though and in the "Champiros" I buy they come with a (XL) load rating of 95 which is a lot more than the 185 size comes with. If I get a flat in the middle of winter I feel I'm more likely to find a matching tread in 195 b/c they make more of them.

That all said they have also been MUCH cheaper on DTD sales.

I bought one set for the wife's HHR that originally took 215s under the "skinnier" premise. Now they're remounted on prius rims by virtue of... I already own the tires. Prius started with 185s.

Am I rambling? Just consider both sizes and see what's out there for variety.


Yep, done that! 185 is a bit cheaper.. Im not sure what to think.. benefits on both sides of the fence.

185 pros:
Better traction in winter (marginal?)
Cheaper

195 pros:
Load rating maintained from OEM spec

What is more important load rating or slight traction improvement?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562455
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If you plan on keeping the car for awhile, buy some junkyard 15 x 5 steel wheels that fit your car and buy a set of 185 x 65/15 winter tires for better traction and keep a set of 195 x 65/15 summer tires for better load capacity and handling with dry roads. You will save the cost and hassle of seasonally swapping tires and older steel wheels don't cost much.


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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: compratio10_5] #4562525
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Originally Posted By: compratio10_5
If you plan on keeping the car for awhile, buy some junkyard 15 x 5 steel wheels that fit your car and buy a set of 185 x 65/15 winter tires for better traction and keep a set of 195 x 65/15 summer tires for better load capacity and handling with dry roads. You will save the cost and hassle of seasonally swapping tires and older steel wheels don't cost much.


Good idea but..I already have a set of separate mags with summer tires.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
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Re: OEM tire size or smaller for winter? [Re: Rolla07] #4562759
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First, I doubt that any reputable tire dealer will install anything other than what came on the car.

Second, believe it or not, the smaller size will cause a loss in fuel economy. I'd advise not going there.


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