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17 Powerstroke oil #4560447
10/31/17 05:54 PM
10/31/17 05:54 PM
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San Antonio Texas
Redland1 Offline OP
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Recently traded in my 13 Duramax with 307,000 trouble free heavy hauling miles for a 17 Powerstroke.From what I am reading in the owners manual I fall in Severe duty maintenance and am wondering what oil grade I should use that meets the ford WSS-M2C171-F1 oil spec? I use my truck strictly for hauling loads up to 28,000LBS plus pickup and cargo securement weight and 99.9 % highway miles.On my old DMAX I was using 15W40 at 8-9k intervals.

Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560473
10/31/17 06:13 PM
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Virginia
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2009 Smart Pure
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40, Purolator Synthetic PSL 14610, 45 mpg...
185/55R15 General HP tires, "H" speed rated, 44 psi (300 kpa)
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560496
10/31/17 06:33 PM
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Central Coast California
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I'd be tempted to run a 10w30 after Blackstone's article on thinner oils but if you pull that much weight and don't short trip it stick with any quality 5w40 or 15w40.


1994 Ford Crown Vic 207k-Frankenbrew 0w20,30,40!
2005 Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4X4 180k-BC 0w30 $2/qt
2016 Outback 2.5 Limited 60k-shop brand?
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560572
10/31/17 07:25 PM
10/31/17 07:25 PM
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West Michigan
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Originally Posted By: Redland1
Recently traded in my 13 Duramax with 307,000 trouble free heavy hauling miles for a 17 Powerstroke.From what I am reading in the owners manual I fall in Severe duty maintenance and am wondering what oil grade I should use that meets the ford WSS-M2C171-F1 oil spec? I use my truck strictly for hauling loads up to 28,000LBS plus pickup and cargo securement weight and 99.9 % highway miles.On my old DMAX I was using 15W40 at 8-9k intervals.


Deere Plus II 0w40 or Mobil 1 Delvac 5w40

Deere oil


19 Ridgeline RTL-E >1K factory fill, A01
08 CRV 275K+ VSyn w/ML, A01
04 JD L130 740H, Mobil S 5w30
13 JD 2032r 325H, JD Plus 50 ii 15w40
M1Delvac 5w40 in OPE
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560592
10/31/17 07:37 PM
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You had excellent service from the GMC keep us well informed on the Ford.


"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560625
10/31/17 08:11 PM
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The issue also is if you look for a 5W40 synthetic you should look for a CJ-4 rather than a CK-4.

I have been running Rotella T6 that is CJ-4 in my Powerstroke.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560634
10/31/17 08:22 PM
10/31/17 08:22 PM
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Reno, Nevada
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There are a lot of oils on that Ford spec approved list! If I had invested in a new Powerstroke that I was going tomuse for heavy hauling I'd go with the Lubrication Engineers Monolec Super Syn Heavy Duty Engine Oil 5w40. Probably the best, and most expensive, oil on the list.

I'm a Powerstoke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gwve you such good service? I like that Ford is making their own Diesel engines right here in the USA.

Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560639
10/31/17 08:29 PM
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Pick up some Chevron Delo 400 LE 5W-40 CJ-4 at your local Wal-Mart. It is $19.97 a gallon. Unless you can find one of the approved CK-4 oils, Delo is good to go.


2018 MB AMG GLC43 3.0L Coupe - Castrol 0W-40/Purflux
2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Langanobob] #4560735
10/31/17 10:42 PM
10/31/17 10:42 PM
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Midwest, Illinois
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Originally Posted By: Langanobob


I'm a Powerstroke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gave you such good service?


popcorn popcorn

Another long time PSD owner here wondering the same thing.
I'll add that Valvoline Premium Blue will give excellent results as well.
Just make sure for warranty that you use an oil from Ford's blessed list, and keep the receipts.
Don't give them any chances to deny anything.

Last edited by beanoil; 10/31/17 10:43 PM.

beanoil: Tough under heat, real dirty afterwards.
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: beanoil] #4560832
11/01/17 03:29 AM
11/01/17 03:29 AM
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San Antonio Texas
Redland1 Offline OP
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San Antonio Texas
Originally Posted By: beanoil
[quote=Langanobob]

I'm a Powerstroke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gave you such good service?


popcorn popcorn

Another long time PSD owner here wondering the same thing.
I'll add that Valvoline Premium Blue will give excellent results as well.
Just make sure for warranty that you use an oil from Ford's blessed list, and keep the receipts.
Don't give them any chances to deny anything.


The Duramax exceeded my expectations as far as Durability,breakdowns, maintenance cost,and fuel mileage .Outside of regular maintenance the intake heater fried at 80,000 miles which I had replaced at the stealership and if I would have known at the time I would have just deleted it,and also at 146,000 miles the DEF tank heater took a [censored] and I just deleted it for a couple hundred more than the cost of tank replacement.The truck had a 40hp tow tune from 146k to 250k and then I dropped it to stock power.

Oil changes were done at 8k-9k with Rotella,Delo,Delvac,and later Phillips 66 fleet supreme.Fuel filters at 25-35,000 miles with ACDELCO fuel filters and a couple of times I used the Baldwin equivalent which I did not like because they plugged up much faster and one even left me on the side of the road, and also because the center gasket would stay attached to the filter head assembly on removal,made in China go figure.As far as the Allison I would change fluid and filter at 46k with Dexron VI.


As why I went to Ford it all came down to price.My first choice was the L5P Duramax but the lowest priced work truck with an enclosed bed not a flat bed was $55k.The XLT Super Duty with SXT package was $48900 with all the rebates Ford was having, and my very last option,like way down at the very bottom of the list was the RAM which was the same price as the SD so it was a no brainer.



Last edited by Redland1; 11/01/17 03:34 AM.
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560865
11/01/17 05:41 AM
11/01/17 05:41 AM
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Minnesota
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Originally Posted By: Redland1
Originally Posted By: beanoil
[quote=Langanobob]

I'm a Powerstroke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gave you such good service?


popcorn popcorn

Another long time PSD owner here wondering the same thing.
I'll add that Valvoline Premium Blue will give excellent results as well.
Just make sure for warranty that you use an oil from Ford's blessed list, and keep the receipts.
Don't give them any chances to deny anything.


The Duramax exceeded my expectations as far as Durability,breakdowns, maintenance cost,and fuel mileage .Outside of regular maintenance the intake heater fried at 80,000 miles which I had replaced at the stealership and if I would have known at the time I would have just deleted it,and also at 146,000 miles the DEF tank heater took a [censored] and I just deleted it for a couple hundred more than the cost of tank replacement.The truck had a 40hp tow tune from 146k to 250k and then I dropped it to stock power.

Oil changes were done at 8k-9k with Rotella,Delo,Delvac,and later Phillips 66 fleet supreme.Fuel filters at 25-35,000 miles with ACDELCO fuel filters and a couple of times I used the Baldwin equivalent which I did not like because they plugged up much faster and one even left me on the side of the road, and also because the center gasket would stay attached to the filter head assembly on removal,made in China go figure.As far as the Allison I would change fluid and filter at 46k with Dexron VI.


As why I went to Ford it all came down to price.My first choice was the L5P Duramax but the lowest priced work truck with an enclosed bed not a flat bed was $55k.The XLT Super Duty with SXT package was $48900 with all the rebates Ford was having, and my very last option,like way down at the very bottom of the list was the RAM which was the same price as the SD so it was a no brainer.




Huh. http://www.laurabuickgmc.com/VehicleDeta...e-IL/3054276043

Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: leje0306] #4560895
11/01/17 06:26 AM
11/01/17 06:26 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 34
San Antonio Texas
Redland1 Offline OP
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San Antonio Texas
Originally Posted By: leje0306
Originally Posted By: Redland1
Originally Posted By: beanoil
[quote=Langanobob]

I'm a Powerstroke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gave you such good service?


popcorn popcorn

Another long time PSD owner here wondering the same thing.
I'll add that Valvoline Premium Blue will give excellent results as well.
Just make sure for warranty that you use an oil from Ford's blessed list, and keep the receipts.
Don't give them any chances to deny anything.


The Duramax exceeded my expectations as far as Durability,breakdowns, maintenance cost,and fuel mileage .Outside of regular maintenance the intake heater fried at 80,000 miles which I had replaced at the stealership and if I would have known at the time I would have just deleted it,and also at 146,000 miles the DEF tank heater took a [censored] and I just deleted it for a couple hundred more than the cost of tank replacement.The truck had a 40hp tow tune from 146k to 250k and then I dropped it to stock power.

Oil changes were done at 8k-9k with Rotella,Delo,Delvac,and later Phillips 66 fleet supreme.Fuel filters at 25-35,000 miles with ACDELCO fuel filters and a couple of times I used the Baldwin equivalent which I did not like because they plugged up much faster and one even left me on the side of the road, and also because the center gasket would stay attached to the filter head assembly on removal,made in China go figure.As far as the Allison I would change fluid and filter at 46k with Dexron VI.


As why I went to Ford it all came down to price.My first choice was the L5P Duramax but the lowest priced work truck with an enclosed bed not a flat bed was $55k.The XLT Super Duty with SXT package was $48900 with all the rebates Ford was having, and my very last option,like way down at the very bottom of the list was the RAM which was the same price as the SD so it was a no brainer.




Huh. http://www.laurabuickgmc.com/VehicleDeta...e-IL/3054276043


I should have been more specific.Crew cab,long bed,DRW not SRW for hauling the weight I haul.

Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Redland1] #4560930
11/01/17 07:28 AM
11/01/17 07:28 AM
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MD
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OP - I'd change fuel fulters on this one sooner than 25K. Powerstrokes are very sensitive to water in fuel. Probably their achilles heel. I do mine at 10-15K now.


2014 F250 6.7L PSD
2006 Sequoia 4.7L
2005 E500 5.0L
1997 4Runner 3.4L
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: claluja] #4560979
11/01/17 08:27 AM
11/01/17 08:27 AM
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SE Texas
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Originally Posted By: claluja
OP - I'd change fuel fulters on this one sooner than 25K. Powerstrokes are very sensitive to water in fuel. Probably their achilles heel. I do mine at 10-15K now.
+1 - stay on top of draining the fuel filter bowl (not sure what the configuration is on the 2017+ models as there has been a "quiet" design change) and I recommend the use of Stanadyne, Diesel Kleen, Howe's or the like to help with water in the fuel. Ford will not honor your warranty if they discover water in the fuel system during a repair.


2018 MB AMG GLC43 3.0L Coupe - Castrol 0W-40/Purflux
2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: 17 Powerstroke oil [Re: Langanobob] #4560988
11/01/17 08:34 AM
11/01/17 08:34 AM
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Maryland
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Maryland
Originally Posted By: Langanobob
There are a lot of oils on that Ford spec approved list! If I had invested in a new Powerstroke that I was going tomuse for heavy hauling I'd go with the Lubrication Engineers Monolec Super Syn Heavy Duty Engine Oil 5w40. Probably the best, and most expensive, oil on the list.

I'm a Powerstoke driver myself (1996 7.3l) and I can't help but ask what it was that made you switch to Ford after the Duramax gwve you such good service? I like that Ford is making their own Diesel engines right here in the USA.


I am now a Cummins guy, 2011 Ram 3500 4x4 Laramie, no issues, great rig. I used to own a 2002 F350 4x4 with the 7.3, made for Ford by International. Great truck,great motor, ran like a top and easy to work on. I know the engines in the New Ford Trucks are made by Ford and are much different in many ways compared to my old 7.3. I mostly used the MC 15w40 oil, 5 quart jugs from WM with no issues. The MC oil was made for Ford by Conoco Phillips, I am guessing that is still true. There are many good oils available, I would say as long as it is Ford Approved and the correct oil is being used for climate temps, OCI's and the correct oil filter is used, you should be good. In my 2011 Ram, I run the Shell Rotella T6 5W40, another great oil.

Last edited by turbowhistle; 11/01/17 08:36 AM.
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