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TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV #4560040
10/31/17 10:12 AM
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Getting ready to do an oil change in my Liberty. Last OCI I used a Fram TG3600 and noticed that I rarely got startup rattle. This OCI, Walmart was out of the TG3600 so I got a Wix 51516 instead and it seems to have more startup rattle. Am I just imagining it or could the Fram have a better designed ADBV for this application?
You can see the oil filter placement here...


Thanks!


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07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560050
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It is colder.


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Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560056
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Well did you use the same oil? Oh and what oil?


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2006 Duramax 74277
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Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560060
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The Wix 51516 has the silicone anti-drainback valve in it, supposed to be the best one. I have used NAPA 1516(Wix 51516) on my Ranger 2.3 with no noise. Will be using FRAM XG3600 next OCI. From what I've read on here, some oil filter's do better on different engines. shrug



Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560123
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Both times I used Maxlife 5w30 and next change will be with Pennzoil HM.

Timing wise, the TG was ran from December 2016-June 2017, then the Wix has been on there since then. So the Fram had seen way colder temps.


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05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
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Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560205
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Switch back and forth a few times and see if you get consistent results. If so, stick with the Fram for your application. That said, Wix is generally the better filter so I would be surprised if that was really the case. Perhaps try something other than Fram, too...

Last edited by dogememe; 10/31/17 12:34 PM.

2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~126K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~84K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo.
Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560223
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Before the Fram I ran Purolators (it was before I read about them) and they always rattled.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: TG3600 vs Wix 51516 ADBV [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4560411
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I have observed startup rattle due to the following filters: WIX 51372, Purolator PL24651, Champ Labs PH820. The startup rattle became noticeable at roughly 1500-2000 miles on the PL24651 and the PH820. Oil was MC Premium Blend 5W30 or Valvoline Maxlife 5W30. No cuts or issues with the ADBV that I could see. The PH820 were Rock Auto closeouts so were rather old.

I have not observed startup rattle on the following: Fram TG2, AC Delco PF1250.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard

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