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Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? #4559496
10/30/17 05:27 PM
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Were they forced to add "semi synthetic" on the bottle or its always been a semi synthetic without knowing it?


2011 Chevy Cruze 1.8L 6AT
Castrol Magnatec syn blend 5w30, NAPA filter.
Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559504
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Show me where it says "semi synthetic" !

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: Merkava_4] #4559506
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Well a blend!!


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Castrol Magnatec syn blend 5w30, NAPA filter.
Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559507
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SN "dino" has at least some synthetic in it due to the stringent standards.

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559510
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ON, Canada eh?
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I figure it's probably because the standards on conventional oil are getting really tough to meet that most are adding synthetic components to their oil to meet specifications and why not advertise it.

Also probably to justify the price because Castrol GTX is much more than PYB for example, at least here anyway.


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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559514
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Some GTX has always been blend its never been a secret its always been right on the Jug. While others have been marked Full Synthetic!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-MAGNATEC-5W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-QT/44580673

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-High-Mileage-5W-30-Synthetic-Blend-Motor-Oil-5-QT/34039137

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/30/17 05:38 PM.

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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559515
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There's no GTX any more. You're thinking of GTX Ultraclean. Similar name, but different product.


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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4559518
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Slacktide is exactly right about this in my opinion.


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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: d00df00d] #4559529
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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
There's no GTX any more. You're thinking of GTX Ultraclean. Similar name, but different product.


Better tell Walmart that their still selling it look at their online site.

A Walmart current online listing

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-M...=10&veh=aff


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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: Merkava_4] #4559534
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Show me where it says "semi synthetic" !


It says "Synthetic blend" for the GTX Ultraclean, which is only available in 5w20 and 5w30.

Here's the pdf's from Castrol, read in the paragraph under "description"

5w20
https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/3C78E248DD0A721780258035006BCAC8/$File/BPXE-A8DJRH.pdf

5w30
https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/5DEAD6CF2F00966880258034005B0DB0/$File/BPXE-AAXEC9.pdf


Now about the GTX, while the GTX Ultraclean is now what the 5w20 and 5w30 is called.. The rest of the oil 10w30, 10w40 and 20w50 is conventional and still called GTX.

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/gtx-motor-oil.html

I ran into this when I was looking to use Castrol GTX and found the GTX Ultraclean popping up in place of the GTX. The only difference (after I sent off samples to the lab) is it's now a synthetic blend. The additive package is basically the same thing. Which is a good thing!

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559536
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with the advent of cheap group III "synthetics" that are mostly used today it takes a very small amount to be advertised as semi-synthetic!!! all of todays oils are a blend of various base oils + additives used to meet the spec they are showing on the container!

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: researcher] #4559547
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Originally Posted By: researcher
Now about the GTX, while the GTX Ultraclean is now what the 5w20 and 5w30 is called.. The rest of the oil 10w30, 10w40 and 20w50 is conventional and still called GTX.


Typical. 10W-30 is always getting shortchanged.

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559572
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10w-30 doesn't need the fancy base stocks to meet spec. That's less VI for ya


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Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559575
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hey Merkava_4, I didn't make the marketing decision. hide

but I hear ya.. I really don't think it's much of a change at all, I did the VOA's and it's not like it's missing much of anything if you use GTX or the GTX Ultraclean, just a bit more detergents, not much to upset me, personally.

Re: Why is Castrol GTX now labelled semi synthetic? [Re: wolf_06] #4559578
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Valvoline conventional says the same thing. "Premium quality synthetic blend base stocks" The lines between conventional/synthetic blend/synthetic got REALLY blurry with SN/GF-5.


https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...12-ac162d889bd1

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