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#4559449 - 10/30/17 05:26 PM Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick?
skyactiv Offline


Registered: 03/02/13
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Loc: The Midwest
My VW was involved in a hit & run accident when it was parked unattended while my wife and I was in a movie theater a few weeks ago. I might be buying a new car and selling the VW privately?
My sister got a new Subaru Impreza with the CVT transmission last summer. It is a very nice small car. The one thing I don't like about it is that it seems to be slow, even compared to some other cars in its class.
I would opt for the manual transmission. So if anyone here has ever driven a 2017+ Impreza with a stick, what's your thoughts on it?
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#4559452 - 10/30/17 05:28 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7480
Loc: S California
Isn't this something you should try for yourself. After all, it's a big investment.

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#4559457 - 10/30/17 05:38 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: OneEyeJack]
skyactiv Offline


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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Isn't this something you should try for yourself. After all, it's a big investment.


Trust me, I will.
There is a lot of online chatter of the 2017 Impreza being slow, but those are all from CVT equipped models.
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#4559463 - 10/30/17 05:53 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
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the naturally aspirated 2.0 is SLOW, + the CVT is a good thing to stay away from IMO. the stick will help a bit because you can rev it + shift when you want. the AWD also slows it with added weight + parasitic drag, that said the stick has a better torque split for bad weather. for snow 4 snow tyres on a FWD car will get you thru most anything, + the ASR automatic slip regulation in VW's helps as well. my 2001 jetta did well for 200,000 smiles + 11 years!! just get another VW IMO!!


Edited by benjy (10/30/17 05:56 PM)

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#4559541 - 10/30/17 06:50 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
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I test drove a Sport earlier this year and was impressed with how it handled and drove. I was there to see a base or premium model that the internet team said they had plenty of, but got bait-and-switched - I was so mad that I took the guy on a long test drive, then simply said, "nope!", walked to my car and drove off when he asked me to walk back inside and talk numbers.

Around town, the 5-speed is just fine. When I wanted to get up and go, not so much. This thing is SLOOOOOOOW. I decided that if I'm going to drive slowly, I'd rather drive something a little more comfortable (and cheaper) so I got a '15 Legacy. I'm almost glad it's not a stick, because it's dog slow, too!

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#4559576 - 10/30/17 07:17 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 11/05/11
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Loc: MTL, CANADA
Yeah its slow with CVT but guess it depends..personally my car is as weak as they come but it works fine. Power is fun but is it necessary for normal driving? I doubt it.
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#4559655 - 10/30/17 08:19 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: Rolla07]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Yeah its slow with CVT but guess it depends..personally my car is as weak as they come but it works fine. Power is fun but is it necessary for normal driving? I doubt it.


How do you find passing? That's generally my excuse for getting the big mill: I like being able to overtake easily without having to plan for a kilometer long section of road with nothing oncoming.
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#4559689 - 10/30/17 08:58 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
TheKracken Offline


Registered: 04/18/17
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Loc: Fort Worth TX
I don't think it is going to compare all that nicely to your GTI....
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#4559695 - 10/30/17 09:07 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 10592
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Is there something different for the 2017+ models?

You may have caught some of my posts in the past in regards to the dislike I had for the 5spd manual in my 2014 XV Crosstrek. It was (for me) an unpleasant chore to drive compared to other 5spds I owned in the past. I would describe the 6spd manual in my SILs 2016 Forester premium to be better, but still not enjoyable.

IMO, if it's a 5 or 6spd manual you're after, I'd go for a Honda, Mazda, VW, etc. Those were always fun to drive IMO.


Edited by JTK (10/30/17 09:07 PM)
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#4559790 - 10/31/17 02:39 AM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
Johnny2Bad Offline


Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 1810
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
If there's a choice between CVT (the worst possible transmission option; it's only done for fuel economy and no other reason) and a Manual Transmission, you wouldn't have to ask me twice. I'm not sure how asking in a forum could help you though, either you like a MT or you don't, and even when slower than an automatic (hydraulic) type or automated clutch manual, it's still the more responsive engine to actually have your foot in. You do give up a bit in fuel economy, although you can drive an MT in such a way to beat a CVT or Hydraulic, it's just no fun whatsoever to you or the other vehicles around you. But if you like to drive hard, it's probably better than either other option; keep your foot into it and the CVT and Hydraulic start gulping fuel pretty hard.

Drive one, if the clutch isn't too stupidly setup and can't be adjusted where you want it (in modern cars, that usually means closer to the floor as the OEMs tend to put the engagement high on the pedal) then I would think you are good to go.

Way better in winter, if that happens where you are, by the way.
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#4559851 - 10/31/17 06:34 AM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 07/13/05
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Loc: New Hampsha
152 Horse I believe in the 2017 Impreza and 2018 Crosstrek

Up from 149 heh

My 2016 Crosstrek with the CVT won't remind me of my 2014 Charger anytime soon..... commuting 100 miles per day roundtrip and I have no problems keeping up with traffic and passing comfortably. granted , yes you have to pick and choose your passes a little more carefully.....


If not buying for the AWD I'd look at a Honda Civic Hatchback Sport...
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#4560177 - 10/31/17 12:07 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 01/09/09
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2017 is direct-injected.

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#4561069 - 11/01/17 09:55 AM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 03/05/15
Posts: 1095
Loc: New York City
Do they still sell a MT in the US with that model?. If they do it is a 6 speed which with that engine will require lots of shifting. Too much for me, but others may like it.


Edited by SeaJay (11/01/17 09:55 AM)

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#4561378 - 11/01/17 04:36 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: SeaJay]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 6003
Originally Posted By: SeaJay
Do they still sell a MT in the US with that model?. If they do it is a 6 speed which with that engine will require lots of shifting. Too much for me, but others may like it.


5-speed

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#4561674 - 11/01/17 10:36 PM Re: Has anyone here driven a 17'+ Impreza stick? [Re: OVERKILL]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4740
Loc: MTL, CANADA
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Yeah its slow with CVT but guess it depends..personally my car is as weak as they come but it works fine. Power is fun but is it necessary for normal driving? I doubt it.


How do you find passing? That's generally my excuse for getting the big mill: I like being able to overtake easily without having to plan for a kilometer long section of road with nothing oncoming.


I have never had a problem passing, granted..the people I pass arent going fast to start with..I do punch it down to almost redline but it goes..not going to set any records or impress anyone, thats for sure. Friend of mine swore by the same as you..but he went from a 6 to a 4 cyl and is finally ok with it.

To be honest, my next car will have a bigger engine..mainly because im a big guy and going camping..the car is slammed full, thats when you notice how slow it is and when passing requires 1..or maybe even 2 kilometres of open stretch to pass ROFL
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