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#4557689 - 10/28/17 08:13 PM Another Scandal - Subaru
kr_bitog Offline


Registered: 10/06/07
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Loc: South East Asia
After Nissan stop production in Japan, now it is revealed Subaru was having same issue like Nissan for the last 30 years. Toyota and Honda have declared with no such issue.
Who's next ?

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#4557712 - 10/28/17 08:26 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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Registered: 03/02/13
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This isn't a big deal in my opinion.
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#4557729 - 10/28/17 08:37 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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Fiat claimed they got poor quality steel from the Sovs in exchange for the old Fiat 124 design/plant that formed the basis for the Lada, and that's why Fiat's rusted so badly.

Might have been true, but I suspect they rusted so badly mostly because they were Fiats, and Fiats have ALWAYS rusted badly.


Edited by Ducked (10/28/17 08:38 PM)

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#4557733 - 10/28/17 08:40 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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FIAT = Fix It Again Tony. grin2
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#4557743 - 10/28/17 08:50 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: skyactiv]
Ducked Offline


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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
This isn't a big deal in my opinion.


Supplies to aircraft and nuclear plant construction might be a bit more of an issue, though.

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#4557750 - 10/28/17 08:55 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
kr_bitog Offline


Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 884
Loc: South East Asia
The issue is not about the steel, but with qc. If that impact serviceable item, it should not much an issue even though it may still impact safety. However it now may be true why there is alot of conflicting opinion on subaru reliability.

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#4557777 - 10/28/17 09:15 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: StevieC]
Emanuel Offline


Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 183
Loc: Venezuela, South America
Originally Posted By: StevieC
FIAT = Fix It Again Tony. grin2
Down here in South America Fiat is a very trusted brand, but it is more a Brazilian brand than an Italian one, we have special Fiat cars designed for South America

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#4557778 - 10/28/17 09:16 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
Emanuel Offline


Registered: 07/01/17
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Loc: Venezuela, South America
Fiat do Brazil is great

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#4557779 - 10/28/17 09:16 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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Originally Posted By: kr_bitog
After Nissan stop production in Japan, now it is revealed Subaru was having same issue like Nissan for the last 30 years.

What issue are we talking about here?
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#4557792 - 10/28/17 09:23 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: kr_bitog
After Nissan stop production in Japan, now it is revealed Subaru was having same issue like Nissan for the last 30 years.

What issue are we talking about here?


http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/27/news/companies/subaru-inspection-scandal-japan/index.html
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#4557796 - 10/28/17 09:30 PM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: Emanuel]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
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Originally Posted By: Emanuel
Originally Posted By: StevieC
FIAT = Fix It Again Tony. grin2
Down here in South America Fiat is a very trusted brand, but it is more a Brazilian brand than an Italian one, we have special Fiat cars designed for South America


I'm Italian background... It's my dad (Italian immigrant to Canada) that taught me FIAT. wink
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#4557977 - 10/29/17 01:27 AM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: StevieC]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 8732
Loc: Phoenix
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Emanuel
Originally Posted By: StevieC
FIAT = Fix It Again Tony. grin2
Down here in South America Fiat is a very trusted brand, but it is more a Brazilian brand than an Italian one, we have special Fiat cars designed for South America


I'm Italian background... It's my dad (Italian immigrant to Canada) that taught me FIAT. wink


I have a Mazda with a Fiat engine and a bunch of Mopar labeled parts. What could possibly go wrong? LOL
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#4558015 - 10/29/17 05:08 AM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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Does Fiat = Alfa Romeo today? I think Fiat bought/owns Alfa Romeo? I like Alfa Romeo.
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#4558022 - 10/29/17 05:21 AM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: kr_bitog]
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Suddenly, Volkswagen's diesel emissions ECU firmware hack for USA market doesn't seem so big of a deal ...

Certain attributes seem to be a default: haters gonna hate. Corporations gonna cheat...
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#4558024 - 10/29/17 05:24 AM Re: Another Scandal - Subaru [Re: wemay]
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Registered: 07/02/07
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Loc: Midwest USA


For weak inspections to really cause a problem, there has to be low quality or bad methods during production. Neither Nissan nor Subaru have those production problems. I see this as a non-issue. Along with Toyota, both are probably in the top tier of best practices during the manufacturing process. The fact some employees were conducting quality assurance inspections before they were certificated internally within the company for that task, really seems rather a big scare over nothing within two of the world's top quality auto makers.

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