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Luckiest Guy in the World? #4557120
10/28/17 10:43 AM
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I ran FRAM orange cans, Honda genuine, and $1.50 Quaker State filters for 10k mile intervals with synthetic oil for 200k miles on a Honda. Do I really need a $15 filter for my new Toyota?

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557135
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Nope, you really don't especially if you are the one maintaining the car since new. The engine will be clean enough inside where it won't make a huge difference, as long as you change the filter regularly.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557139
10/28/17 10:52 AM
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Probably not.
If you change your oil regularly right from the beginning, you'll never accumulate enough dirt to need the extra filtering capacity that those expensive filters provide. A NAPA Gold, Wix or Fram Toughgard should work fine for 10K....I personally wouldn't run an orange Fram or other cheap filter for 10K....


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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557169
10/28/17 11:18 AM
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Depends on what kind of Toyota you get because that will determine the filter type used.
Most new Toyota uses the cartridge type filter (no can).
The cheapest filter for that is actually the OEM from stealership.
Even the Orange can is more expensive.
So, yes, you can keep using the Orange can but it is not $1.50 filter anymore.


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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557174
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Originally Posted By: HowAboutThis
I ran FRAM orange cans, Honda genuine, and $1.50 Quaker State filters for 10k mile intervals with synthetic oil for 200k miles on a Honda. Do I really need a $15 filter for my new Toyota?


If its a cartage filter that's probably going to be as cheap as you're going to find on some models of cars. Look for those prices to come down but that's close to where some of them are now.


Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/28/17 11:23 AM.

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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557177
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If you buy a new 96K Lexus it comes with a Toyota Denso oil filter, and if you have the Lexus dealer service it, it gets the same Denso filter. The genuine Toyota Denso is usually about $5, +/- $2. Not bad for a part engineered for the car as a replacement part with a 12k or one year factory warranty.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557183
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In the 1950's, some car engines were made without oil filters. My boss had an old Chevy that went for 200,000 miles and it did not have an oil filter. He changed his oil regularly and kept his fingers crossed that his engine would not die.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557216
10/28/17 11:55 AM
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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557283
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I was ready to get flamed. I get some of you are OCD (not OCOD) but I just giggle every time people spend $20 on oil and $15 on a filter. Lol. And then change every 5-7k because you just can't have any dirt in your oil. Good to see some normal people in the filter section. I'll keep going with OEM because ,as some have pointed out, they are the cheapest I can find.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: pbm] #4557324
10/28/17 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: pbm

If you change your oil regularly right from the beginning, you'll never accumulate enough dirt to need the extra filtering capacity that those expensive filters provide.


Correct ^^

I ran a Motorcraft FL-1A filter on a Ford 400M V8 for 30,000 miles with regular oil changes.


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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557385
10/28/17 02:29 PM
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I do 10K oil change intervals on my 03 V8 4Runner but only change the Mobil1 M-209 filter every other oil change and the recent UOA showed good results.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557455
10/28/17 03:56 PM
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Shop Ebay and amazon and youll find good deals on multipack Toyota oil fiters.

I get 5-10 packs for about $5 each, free ship no tax.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557483
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I use OEM, proselects and gold. Cant tell a difference, id use 3$ proselects or super tech filters without worry


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Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: Kool1] #4557501
10/28/17 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kool1
In the 1950's, some car engines were made without oil filters. My boss had an old Chevy that went for 200,000 miles and it did not have an oil filter. He changed his oil regularly and kept his fingers crossed that his engine would not die.


Non-detergent oil did a lot better without a filter then modern detergent oils.

Re: Luckiest Guy in the World? [Re: HowAboutThis] #4557513
10/28/17 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: HowAboutThis
I was ready to get flamed. I get some of you are OCD (not OCOD) but I just giggle every time people spend $20 on oil and $15 on a filter. Lol. And then change every 5-7k because you just can't have any dirt in your oil. Good to see some normal people in the filter section. I'll keep going with OEM because ,as some have pointed out, they are the cheapest I can find.


$35.00 for synthetic oil and a top filter is cheaper then $5K plus for a new motor.
I call it insurance.


2006 Nissan Sentra 199K miles. How far will it go ?
2010 Hyundai Elantra 86K miles
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