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#4556997 - 10/28/17 09:57 AM Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD?
TmanP Offline


Registered: 10/30/15
Posts: 436
Loc: MN
Here's something strange I just found:
I was looking at the PDS for QSUD and QS Dexos blend. Both oils meet Dexos but the blend is only $17 at Walmart.

The Dexos blend has a lower pour point (-45 vs -42), a lower viscosity at -30 (4180 cp vs 4980 cp), and a very similar flash point (235 degrees vs 237). The dexos blend is also thicker at operating temperature (11.3 vs 10.8)

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._dexos1_TDS.pdf

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf

What do you guys think? The Pennzoil blend is reported to be 50% synthetic, so this may be similar. I assume they use a similar add pack, but I'm not sure.
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#4557010 - 10/28/17 10:09 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
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I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.

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#4557029 - 10/28/17 10:25 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP]
wallyuwl Offline


Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 1777
Loc: Wisconsin
Does the new gold label with green bottle mean new formula? And gold bottle mean old formula?

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#4557042 - 10/28/17 10:31 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
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No, bottle color doesn't indicate anything as far as I'm aware. I was able to find Dexos1 Gen1 QSUD with the green bottle, but now the same green bottle contains the new Gen2 formulation.

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#4557049 - 10/28/17 10:41 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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The folks riding on the "full synthetic is better than everything!!!!" wagon won't like to see this.....
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#4557060 - 10/28/17 10:48 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
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Here's the difference between PNZL GOLD dex1Gen2 and the older dex1...

dexos1 Gen2


dexos1
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#4557071 - 10/28/17 10:54 AM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: JustN89]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: JustN89
I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.


No they have the current data sheets posted go to their site.

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/blog/new-green-bottle0.html


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (10/28/17 11:01 AM)
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#4557205 - 10/28/17 12:44 PM Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
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Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: JustN89
I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.


No they have the current data sheets posted go to their site.

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/blog/new-green-bottle0.html

Nothing on that FAQ says that it's updated for the new formulation. The date on their PDS still reads from 2014. If you have a link to an updated PDS, please post it.

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