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Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? #4556997
10/28/17 09:57 AM
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Here's something strange I just found:
I was looking at the PDS for QSUD and QS Dexos blend. Both oils meet Dexos but the blend is only $17 at Walmart.

The Dexos blend has a lower pour point (-45 vs -42), a lower viscosity at -30 (4180 cp vs 4980 cp), and a very similar flash point (235 degrees vs 237). The dexos blend is also thicker at operating temperature (11.3 vs 10.8)

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._dexos1_TDS.pdf

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf

What do you guys think? The Pennzoil blend is reported to be 50% synthetic, so this may be similar. I assume they use a similar add pack, but I'm not sure.


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Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP] #4557010
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I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.

Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP] #4557029
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Does the new gold label with green bottle mean new formula? And gold bottle mean old formula?

Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP] #4557042
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No, bottle color doesn't indicate anything as far as I'm aware. I was able to find Dexos1 Gen1 QSUD with the green bottle, but now the same green bottle contains the new Gen2 formulation.

Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP] #4557049
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The folks riding on the "full synthetic is better than everything!!!!" wagon won't like to see this.....


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: TmanP] #4557060
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Here's the difference between PNZL GOLD dex1Gen2 and the older dex1...

dexos1 Gen2


dexos1


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Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: JustN89] #4557071
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Originally Posted By: JustN89
I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.


No they have the current data sheets posted go to their site.

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/blog/new-green-bottle0.html

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/28/17 11:01 AM.

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Re: Quaker state blend BETTER on paper than QSUD? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4557205
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: JustN89
I think this point will need to be revisited now that a reformulation has taken place. These data sheets are outdated now.


No they have the current data sheets posted go to their site.

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/blog/new-green-bottle0.html

Nothing on that FAQ says that it's updated for the new formulation. The date on their PDS still reads from 2014. If you have a link to an updated PDS, please post it.


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