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When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? #4556699
10/27/17 08:23 PM
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Ty Williams Offline OP
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I went to Redline's website today to look up a part number and noticed it had changed. This caused me to find out that Redline was bought by Phillips 66 when I wasn't looking. Checking the specs against an older data sheet I had, the HTHS for the 5w20 has dropped from 3.3 to 3.0 (which is a [censored] big change!) and the advertising copy no longer mentions being a PAO/ester base stock.

So what the heck happened here?

Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4556701
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Does it matter to most people its over priced!


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Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4556703
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Ty Williams Offline OP
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When you run it for 10k or 15k in hard-use vehicles, the extended service interval makes it as cheap as parts store oil and still has higher HTHS, etc.

If you're a numpty who's still changing oil every 3k, yeah it doesn't make any sense.

Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4556707
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Recent, ongoing thread on the topic...

bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4554824/Redline_updated_their_website!#Post4554824


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Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4556770
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Things are always changing. I'll bet their racing lubes are nearly the same, but the price will prolly rise frown


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Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4556963
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I see they now recommend d6 for the prius; in the past it was d4; apparently d6 lacked a particular additive needed to protect the plastic components.


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Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4558028
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numpĚty
ˈnəm(p)tē/Submit
nounBRITISHinformal
noun: numpty; plural noun: numpties
a stupid or ineffectual person.
Origin

1980s: origin uncertain, perhaps an alteration of numbskull, the ending perhaps remodeled on the pattern of Humpty Dumpty.

Re: When did Redline change formulation? Still OK? [Re: Ty Williams] #4558160
10/29/17 08:08 AM
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Posted in another thread already, didn't see this one... but it looks like the change was something in the 2012-2013 timeframe.

Here's a link to the 5w20 page from 2013. Nothing has changed from today's specs: https://web.archive.org/web/20131008184755/http://www.redlineoil.com:80/product.aspx?pid=1&pcid=21

You have to go back to 2012 for a change to show up: https://web.archive.org/web/20120711114137/http://www.redlineoil.com:80/product.aspx?pid=1&pcid=21


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