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What are symptons of automatic transmission issues #4555592
10/26/17 08:33 PM
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I just did a ATF change on my Hyundai Tucson 2006 which had ~ 195 000KM. The fluid was a tad dark and smelled a bit. I read at first if the fluid was in this condition changing it (as in draining only from pan, not flushing it) wouldnít cause much issues.

But reading more info Iím getting more and more paranoid and also on the type of fluid used to. Manual calls for SP-III. Visited dealer since couldnít find anything near me, they assured me v PENNZOIL PLATINUM LV MULTI-VEHICLE ATF
should be fine to use and mix. Itís what they have at the dealer and sold me and they told me because they are switching suppliers for their oil and stuff that there isnít an Official Hyundai bottle and label.

So I just want to know, if it turned out to cause an issue, what would be symptoms that I should probably drain it out and get it checked. I drove it a bit hard and all and didnít really hear any grinding or odd noises and the car moved as before. The only thing is shifting from Park to Drive car has a small clunk noise but I believe it was like this before.

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Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555598
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You're supposed to change it *before* you have issues. If you change the fluid after you're already having problems, it could make things worse.

You'll *know* when your transmission is acting up!

That Pennzoil LV ATF is good stuff and will work well in your transmission smile

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555600
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Google is your friend

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4555602
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
You're supposed to change it *before* you have issues. If you change the fluid after you're already having problems, it could make things worse.

You'll *know* when your transmission is acting up!

That Pennzoil LV ATF is good stuff and will work well in your transmission smile


I didn't really have any issues before. It's just my mom gave me her car and she never changed it even though the manual stated it should have been replcaed at 165K KM so I figured I would change it.

Lol ok, I'll drive around more tomorrow hopefully everything will be good.

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: jj51702] #4555606
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Originally Posted By: jj51702
Google is your friend


Google is what made me worried and made me post this. Google is not my friend frown

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555647
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Check ATF color from time to time ensuring it's always pinkish and shorten OCI if need be, would be my approach is assessing whether the trans is fine.

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555675
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It's tough to get an idea of how bad the fluid was.. old ATF tends to be dark in color and it almost always smells. The fluid you used is probably newer than it needs to be, but probably not a major problem. Why didn't you just buy some MaxLife ATF at your version of Walmart or Autozone?

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: Reddy45] #4555684
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
It's tough to get an idea of how bad the fluid was.. old ATF tends to be dark in color and it almost always smells. The fluid you used is probably newer than it needs to be, but probably not a major problem. Why didn't you just buy some MaxLife ATF at your version of Walmart or Autozone?



I couldn't find any Hyundai SP-III fluid at Canadian Tire.

I looked up the website again of the Pennzoil stuff and the fluid clearly shows SP-IV dammit... hopefully nothing goes wrong. I knew the dealer was full of [censored] arghh.

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Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555690
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Originally Posted By: TheMidnightNarwh
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
It's tough to get an idea of how bad the fluid was.. old ATF tends to be dark in color and it almost always smells. The fluid you used is probably newer than it needs to be, but probably not a major problem. Why didn't you just buy some MaxLife ATF at your version of Walmart or Autozone?



I couldn't find any Hyundai SP-III fluid at Canadian Tire.

I looked up the website again of the Pennzoil stuff and the fluid clearly shows SP-IV dammit... hopefully nothing goes wrong. I knew the dealer was full of [censored] arghh.


You can still do another drain and put in the proper stuff. Hyundai SP-III is an older spec and almost ANY universal ATF should meet it. You could even buy the generic universal ATF stuff and it should work.

SP-IV is mostly just going to be lighter to aid in fuel economy. You'll be fine as-is but take it easy on the transmission until you get the right fluid in there.

Here is some good info: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2502685/2

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: Reddy45] #4555691
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Originally Posted By: TheMidnightNarwh
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
It's tough to get an idea of how bad the fluid was.. old ATF tends to be dark in color and it almost always smells. The fluid you used is probably newer than it needs to be, but probably not a major problem. Why didn't you just buy some MaxLife ATF at your version of Walmart or Autozone?



I couldn't find any Hyundai SP-III fluid at Canadian Tire.

I looked up the website again of the Pennzoil stuff and the fluid clearly shows SP-IV dammit... hopefully nothing goes wrong. I knew the dealer was full of [censored] arghh.


You can still do another drain and put in the proper stuff. Hyundai SP-III is an older spec and almost ANY universal ATF should meet it. You could even buy the generic universal ATF stuff and it should work.


Man it's a headache. I spent 70$ just for the fluid. I guess I'll keep it in and if something Fs up I'll really let them know or something. The dude assured me himself and the techs also it should be fine.

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Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555716
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Eh, I think you'll be fine. Pennzoil Plat LV is a great ATF and it exceeds the requirements for SPIII, which is an older standard and nothing special. Most modern ATFs meets it except for the old plain Merc/DexIII. Maxlife meets similar requirements with similar viscosities and lists of manufacturer specs too. Will Hyundai/Kia ever officially say SPIV can be used for SPIII? Don't know but doubtful, like Toyota still hasn't officially sanctioned the use of WS to T-IV applications even though available LV ATFs like Maxlife meets both requirements.

How you'll know if your trans is acting up with the wrong fluid after a recent trans fluid change: if it shifts wrong, won't shift, downshifts irregularly, excessive shuddering during shifts across all gears. If it doesn't do that, you're golden. It won't take long for those signs to pop up... like within a few miles after a fluid change.

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555723
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https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3651797/GenaFishbeck#Post3651797

Be at ease. Not to say that product formulations don't change in 2-3 years but generally they maintain the same recommendations for manufacturer specs.

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: ruhroh] #4555724
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"it won't take long for those signs to pop up... like within a few miles after a fluid change."

Ok gotcha thanks for the reply.

Yeah did a drive today after changing it and everything seemed normal.

I will see over the next few days.

I also noticed I think I'm missing a bit of fluid. It's hard to read the dipstick. I think I may be missing ~200ml.

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: ruhroh] #4555726
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Originally Posted By: ruhroh
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3651797/GenaFishbeck#Post3651797

Be at ease. Not to say that product formulations don't change in 2-3 years but generally they maintain the same recommendations for manufacturer specs.


Cool! Thanks for that, I'm less worried now. They should mention it on their product listing. smile

Re: What are symptons of automatic transmission issues [Re: TheMidnightNarwh] #4555733
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Just get it to within the specified range on the dipstick. Preferably near the center to top range. Follow Hyundai's instruction on how to check the dipstick though because it varies with makers and models. The vehicle has to be on a level surface to check the dipstick but some vehicles vary with their procedures. Most say to check it hot, some cold. Some after going through all the gears on the shifter, some just after idling for awhile in park.


Manuals are so much easier.

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