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vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack #4555271
10/26/17 02:49 PM
10/26/17 02:49 PM
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canada
apollo18 Offline OP
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looking to make it easier for me to change fluids. my truck is a 2007 escalade ext so weighs about 5800 lbs.† thinking about buying two ramps to make it easier to change oil and such. Can choose between
Spectre Pro Ramp: 2 ramps are good for 6000 lbs : $44
or the Rhino Ramps: 2 ramps are good for 8000 lbs I believe $80

I feel like ramps are easier then a jack and jack stand. What do you guys think? and what is the safest. I'm only gonna be doing front diff and oil changes, nothing else aha. So I feel like a ramp is easiest.

Spectre ramp seems like it will get the job done, what do you guys recommend? don't really think I need to spend more for the rhino ramps


a jack stand and 3 ton jack kit is probably gonna be around $120 +

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555278
10/26/17 02:55 PM
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Personally I would buy a jack and stands. Sometimes you may want the wheels off to rotate the tires, do a brake job, etc.

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555292
10/26/17 03:03 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: Kool1] #4555302
10/26/17 03:10 PM
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apollo18 Offline OP
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thanks for the reply! but I literally will never touch anything else tbh ahah. ill never do anything wheel related. just fluids.

what do u think in my case

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555312
10/26/17 03:23 PM
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I have both. If it's just a fluid change or something where the wheels don't have to come off, I use the ramps because they're much easier. If a wheel has to come off, then I use a jack. If it's getting my car level to check the transmission fluid level after an ATF change, while still being high enough off the ground to access the stupidly-designed "check plug," it's the front wheels on ramps and the back on jack stands.

Since I do all the work on our three cars, one of these might be in my future.

EDIT: I would not use 6k rated ramps for a 5,800 lb vehicle. The ones I have (plastic "Rhino" ramps) are rated for 12,000 lbs and I just looked and they're available for $40. I, too, doubted if the plastic would hold up over time, but I've had them for 10+ years now.

Last edited by Anduril; 10/26/17 03:34 PM.

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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555315
10/26/17 03:32 PM
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I have the same ones, last forever and are great for oil change's...If you shop around you may find them cheaper...


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97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555330
10/26/17 03:46 PM
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Colorado
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I believe the rating on the ramps is 6000 pounds per ramp, which would mean for a 6000 pound vehicle it would only be about 1500 pounds ( assuming a 50-50 front to rear weight ratio LOL )

In any case, if it is just fluids then save yourself some trouble and $$ and get the ramps. I have had both, and the ramps make it so much simpler.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555333
10/26/17 03:48 PM
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I'd suggest getting the 12,000 or 16,000lb rhino ramps for your vehicle as well. I'd be pretty confident that the 6000lb ramps would probably work, considering it'll never be taking the full weight of the car, but, at least in the US, the 12,000lb and 16,000lb Rhino Ramps are commonly available for pretty cheap, in the $40 range (USD).

Also, I believe the higher weight rated ramps are wider, which might make it easier to get a vehicle with large tires centered.

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: EdwardC] #4555334
10/26/17 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: EdwardC
I'd suggest getting the 12,000 or 16,000lb rhino ramps for your vehicle as well. I'd be pretty confident that the 6000lb ramps would probably work, considering it'll never be taking the full weight of the car, but, at least in the US, the 12,000lb and 16,000lb Rhino Ramps are commonly available for pretty cheap, in the $40 range (USD).


My edit time ran out; agree with this though, I got my Rhinos for about $40 each and they are 10,000 pounds if I remember correctly.


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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555355
10/26/17 04:10 PM
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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555358
10/26/17 04:15 PM
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West Ma.
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Good deal but look to be sold out frown


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555360
10/26/17 04:18 PM
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Hey gang, be careful about how the ramps are weight rated. From this site:http://allgaragefloors.com/5-best-car-ramps/

"When reviewing weight ratings or load carrying capacity of car ramps, itís important to understand what they actually mean. As an example, car ramps with a GVW weight rating (Rhino) and car ramps with a single axle weight rating (Spectre) mean two different things.

A GVW (gross vehicle weight) rating does not mean that the ramps will hold all that weight. It means that the ramps are designed to lift and hold up one half of a vehicle that weighs up to that much. In other words, a 12,000 pound GVW rating means the ramps will hold up to 6,000 pounds for the pair.

A single axle weight rating for car ramps means just what is says. As an example, a 3,000 pound single axle rating means that the ramp pair will hold up to 3,000 pounds safely.

Always keep in mind weight bias for vehicles as well. If you are lifting the front of a 3,500 pound front wheel drive car, you can almost guarantee that the front of the vehicle actually weighs more than the back."


The weight capacity of the Rhino Ramps is kind muddled if you ask me. One half of the GVW, but the front weighs more than the back. Hmmmm...

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555373
10/26/17 04:37 PM
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Texas & Global
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I use both and sometimes two jacks and jack stand load sharing

You can make good ramps from 2x10ís but should glue and screw from standard wood and keep stored inside
(Treated lumber does not glue as well) Ö


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Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: 4WD] #4555490
10/26/17 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
I use both and sometimes two jacks and jack stand load sharing

You can make good ramps from 2x10ís but should glue and screw from standard wood and keep stored inside
(Treated lumber does not glue as well) Ö


^^ THis. Ramps are great because you're not nicking the paint on your undercarriage or putting mini-dents in its "pressure points". And the truck sits how it normally sits. But I would go heavier dutier for that truck such as the example lumber.

Re: vehicle ramp or jack stand + jack [Re: apollo18] #4555507
10/26/17 06:00 PM
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Idaho
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Both jack, stands and ramp. They are nice tools to have


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