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#4554249 - 10/25/17 02:43 PM Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 367
Loc: TX
I thought you might be interested in this. Looks like they finally got rig of the calcium and greatly increased magnesium content. Although I'm really disappointed in TBN...9 as opposed to 12.5
claimed.
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#4554251 - 10/25/17 02:44 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
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#4554257 - 10/25/17 02:51 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
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Registered: 07/03/17
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Thanx for posting!

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#4554263 - 10/25/17 02:55 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: bigj_16]
parshisa Offline


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No worries. 0w20 to follow once received
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#4554264 - 10/25/17 02:56 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
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#4554274 - 10/25/17 03:10 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 3789
Loc: New England
Thanks for sharing!

I thought Amsoil might go with a big dose of ZDDP to help quench LSPI, obviously that is not the case.
For those who haven't been following the relevant discussion, Amsoil is advertising this oil and some others as passing the dexos1 Gen 2 LSPI tests without being compliant to the overall spec (they mention online that their SA levels are too high for that).
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#4554278 - 10/25/17 03:15 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
btanchors Offline


Registered: 04/10/04
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Loc: Herndon, VA
Thanks, OP, for posting and for the VOA. It looks like Moly and Boron have increased as well.

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#4554281 - 10/25/17 03:21 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: btanchors]
parshisa Offline


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I'm really surprised with TBN. called the lab and they will be re-running for TBN. Also, forgot to mention, that Amsoil claims 1.2 for sulfated ash.
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#4554283 - 10/25/17 03:23 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
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Looks very similar to Mobil 1/Castrol. Probably an Infineum additive system. Thanks for sharing. smile
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#4554289 - 10/25/17 03:28 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: buster]
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
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I guess the difference will be the base oil - amsoil is still using POA/ester. Looks good to me with exception of "low" TBN
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#4554310 - 10/25/17 03:52 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
tsduke Offline


Registered: 10/27/10
Posts: 135
Loc: Iowa
Hope there is a mistake in the TBN reading. 9.01 is a far cry from 12.5 stated in their PDS.

Thanks for sending this in for the VOA. I just changed my oil with bottles of the new formula in both 0w-20 and 5w-30 and was going to send in for a sample for a VOA but haven't got around to it yet.

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#4554331 - 10/25/17 04:18 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
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Isn't this relatively "thIn" at 100C for any 30-weight, let alone an Amsoil product?

And the reduced TBN could go hand-in-globe with lower calcium.

More silicon than some UOAs. Odd.

Wonder how the sample earned the "4 Critical" rating?

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#4554334 - 10/25/17 04:21 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3742
Loc: Connecticut
Quite middle of the road for viscosity (10.4 cSt). I'd have figured Amsoil is always up near the upper limits of the grade. Mobil 1 5w-30 is up at 11.1. 10.4 is more like PP/QSUD.

Reduces Calcium by 2330 ppm (-63%)....adds in aprox 1,000 ppm Mg to counter. The days of "big calcium" seem numbered. More SOPUS oil clearances to come.
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#4554343 - 10/25/17 04:34 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
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Ca<Mg when it comes to TBN retention. This formulation looks like an upgrade.
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#4554401 - 10/25/17 05:46 PM Re: Amsoil SS 5w30 new formulation VOA [Re: parshisa]
wemay Online   happy


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 8579
Loc: Southeast Florida
Thanks for sharing, OP.

As has been stated, LSPI in DIT, T-GDI etc., has influenced the entire industry and the oil companies have been listening. I wonder if the Conventional oils will see the same reformulation.
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