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Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron #4554015
10/25/17 10:26 AM
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Which option do you feel does a better job of cleaning up the fuel system and why?


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554024
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Techron or GumOut All-In-One. alcohol is't going to do much cleaning.

Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554033
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Cleaning up what? Valves/Combustion Chamber/Injectors All of it?

Is it direct injected or not?


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554049
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Ironically, ethanol based fuel injector cleaners were removed from the market because they were determined to be corrosive for some metals, including Aluminum. Techron concentrate (with PEA) contains no ethanol, cleans and protects against ethanol corrosion and the buildup of sulfur. This concern is mainly for "older" engines, new engines are designed around E85, winter summer blends, etc. So I guess it depends on the age of the engine, whether or not to use a PEA product.


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554056
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This is funny. Here in the performance world, we use regular gas to clean the gunk and goo that e85 leaves in and on the injector nozzle bodies. The e85 isnt doing as much cleaning as it is breaking down the rubber lines and corroding bare aluminum(fuel rail.)

Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554072
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You have flex fuel? E0 is the way to go. I bet your e85 is over 1% water - at the least!


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: StevieC] #4554123
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Cleaning up what? Valves/Combustion Chamber/Injectors All of it?

Is it direct injected or not?



Port injected flex fuel V6. I believe the fuel rail is stainless steel

Last edited by SilverFusion2010; 10/25/17 12:11 PM.

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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554124
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might want to try K100 MG+ http://k-100.com

the stuff does wonders for powersports, motorcycles, marine, and OPE; it is my preferred stuff to store with...easy ignition the following season; it was designed as a medium duty cleaning formula which showed other benefits during testing; stabilizing for 1-2 years, octane increase of 1.5-2 points; encapsulization of water molecules allowing ignition without negative effects; not a snake oil yet does alot for burners of ethanol blended gasoline!

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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554190
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Ive been thinking of going to a local place and filling up my 5 gal gas can with e85 and experimenting with it in my prius and sienna. The sienna recommends premium for performance but I don't like paying that price tag so I was thinking adding 5 gallons of e85 to 15 gallons gas might work instead.


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: TheKracken] #4554204
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Originally Posted By: TheKracken
Ive been thinking of going to a local place and filling up my 5 gal gas can with e85 and experimenting with it in my prius and sienna.


No gas can required - the pump has a meter on it.

My 1996 Mustang 4.6 always pinged horribly on 87 E-10,
so I always added 4-5 gallons of E-85 at fill up (~25-30%)


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: Linctex] #4554230
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: TheKracken
Ive been thinking of going to a local place and filling up my 5 gal gas can with e85 and experimenting with it in my prius and sienna.


No gas can required - the pump has a meter on it.

My 1996 Mustang 4.6 always pinged horribly on 87 E-10,
so I always added 4-5 gallons of E-85 at fill up (~25-30%)




Why wouldn't you just use 89 or 91/93? Or even mix them? I know my 96 has never been listed as flex fuel! Now, might not be problematic but I doubt its ideal.


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554248
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I wish I would have took a video of my piston tops before I started running E85 in my 2002 Silverado 5.3. It would be interesting to see if it cleans at all. I know it burns cleaner, but does it clean as well. Been using it at a 50/50 mix, 50% E85 and 50% 93. For over a year now. The truck loves it, at least it seems to.


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554296
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I'm going to fill up with e85 today because I want to see what the car does with it. I thought that the e85 was considered good for cleaning up carbon. Guess not


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554399
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Is that pinging or the sound of corn popping?


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Re: Tank of e85 vs bottle of Techron [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4554454
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