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Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! #4553582
10/24/17 09:09 PM
10/24/17 09:09 PM
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Ottawa, Ont CANADA
2K2AcuraTL Offline OP
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Brought in my 2002 TL-P for its first valve adjustment maintenance @ 132,000 km...
Owned since new (june 2001).. nothing but synth since day 1.. Over the years some M1, 1 OCI of GC, some RP,.. but mostly PP...



02 Acura TL-P
13 Acura MDX-Elite
Both on PP and PP Ultra & Petro-Can Duradrive synth ATF

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553591
10/24/17 09:16 PM
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Port Orange, Florida
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Ok, now let's see the same engine on Conventional oil which has the same API ratings.



2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Hemi 4x4
2016 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: Panzerman] #4553595
10/24/17 09:20 PM
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Great Lakes
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Ok, now let's see the same engine on Conventional oil which has the same API ratings.

+1


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553598
10/24/17 09:22 PM
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Illinois
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My 2007 Fusion 2.3 has 214K miles and the cam area looks like new at 10K OCIs. Runs like new as well. M1 0-20.

Last edited by tig1; 10/24/17 09:23 PM.

2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: Panzerman] #4553602
10/24/17 09:24 PM
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California
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California
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Ok, now let's see the same engine on Conventional oil which has the same API ratings.


This

How can u prove if there was a bit more varnish or some sludge buildup the car wouldn't reach its max life? I know there's tons of vehicles out there not maintained well or at quick lube places with well over 300k being run on bulk conventional and jobber filters. My brother in law actually owns many examples of these for his private security company. Usually something else causes the car to be scrapped b4 the engine goes out.

But hey, if it makes u sleep better...

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: tig1] #4553605
10/24/17 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: tig1
My 2007 Fusion 2.3 has 214K miles and the cam area looks like new at 10K OCIs. Runs like new as well. M1 0-20.


Lol good ol tig1 the Mobil 1 parrot. Will show up in any thread regarding engines with their valve covers off.

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553609
10/24/17 09:28 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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Looks good

My Jeep is at least as clean and was a fleet vehicle for the first 100k on unknown OCIs with conventional, it's had 4,000 miles of synthetic run through it.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 84k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: Quattro Pete] #4553620
10/24/17 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Ok, now let's see the same engine on Conventional oil which has the same API ratings.

+1


+2


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553623
10/24/17 09:46 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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Ontario, Canada
Amsoil 535,000km (300K Miles) wink




'18 Highlander - AMSOIL SS 0w20 / ATF / Severe Gear
'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553637
10/24/17 09:55 PM
10/24/17 09:55 PM
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NC
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My girl's car with almost 180k on it looks similar through the fill hole...before I started changing it, she took it to her dad who used....Havoline conventional. No longer do I think you need synthetic to keep a clean looking engine.

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553642
10/24/17 10:00 PM
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Colorado
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Colorado
Originally Posted By: 2K2AcuraTL
Brought in my 2002 TL-P for its first valve adjustment maintenance @ 132,000 km...
Owned since new (june 2001).. nothing but synth since day 1.. Over the years some M1, 1 OCI of GC, some RP,.. but mostly PP...






What has your interval been so far?

How about you, StevieC....OCI?


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553647
10/24/17 10:02 PM
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GA
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GA
It is all about the oil interval to oil type or brand


2008 Mazda6i GT; @202K miles
2016 Honda CR-V EX-L; @33K miles
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: Kuato] #4553653
10/24/17 10:05 PM
10/24/17 10:05 PM
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Ottawa, Ont CANADA
2K2AcuraTL Offline OP
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Ottawa, Ont CANADA
For this OCI..? looking at 10k km...or 1 year, which is somewhat typical
some OCI have been as little as 4000km....


02 Acura TL-P
13 Acura MDX-Elite
Both on PP and PP Ultra & Petro-Can Duradrive synth ATF

Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553667
10/24/17 10:15 PM
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Western S.C. since 1996
CR94 Offline
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My Mazda usually looked cleaner than that (without that ugly brown stuff on everything) on conventional, and rolled over 7 times as far. (I say "usually" because some brands made gray sludge, while others removed it.)


2011 Toyota Prius now at 92K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: Why synthetics...?? this is why..!! [Re: 2K2AcuraTL] #4553668
10/24/17 10:16 PM
10/24/17 10:16 PM
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GA
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GA
Mine will place all of your engines(3x) to shame laugh and of course on conventional only!



Last edited by miden851; 10/24/17 10:17 PM.

2008 Mazda6i GT; @202K miles
2016 Honda CR-V EX-L; @33K miles
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