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#4553397 - 10/24/17 06:32 PM Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box
Mainia Offline


Registered: 04/06/15
Posts: 229
Loc: Upper midwest
Half is glued, half is not. THANK GOD this one is not inside a can. But what about their other filters in a can ......Where is the quality control??


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Edited by Mainia (10/24/17 06:33 PM)

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#4553413 - 10/24/17 06:41 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 909
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fram filters have always been poor, + prolly still are!!!

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#4553414 - 10/24/17 06:41 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
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You just created a ground swell. I can feel the tremors now. grin

Seriously, the spin on filters are glued differently.
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#4553415 - 10/24/17 06:43 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
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You need to PM motorking, his name is Jay Buckley-I sense some free filters in your future!
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#4553428 - 10/24/17 06:57 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
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Paging ZeeOSix ! grin

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#4553431 - 10/24/17 06:58 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
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There will always be defects on occasion with mass produced goods. Having said that when I start seeing a more consistent lack of quality like I did with Purolator I'll start thinking of another brand. For now the cartridge filters I have from them are very well made. Thanks for posting! I'll be keeping an eye out for more issues.
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#4553438 - 10/24/17 07:04 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
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That is why you open the box before you ever buy if its not and online buy. So now you have to ask was this an online buy or a lazy buy?
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#4553442 - 10/24/17 07:08 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
Leo99 Offline


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Yikes, that the same size and brand I use in my Camry. I buy mine online. Funny thing is they put a tamper evident seal on the top lid but not the bottom.
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#4553448 - 10/24/17 07:12 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
demarpaint Offline


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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
That is why you open the box before you ever buy if its not and online buy. So now you have to ask was this an online buy or a lazy buy?


Good point. I always check if I buy from a store. I've found used, damaged, and mislabeled goods in boxes more times than I can count. In my local WMT store I wouldn't be one bit surprised if someone opened a box and messed with the filter, then put it back. Something you can't do to a spin on filter's media. FTR I'm not defending Fram. When I see more reports like this I'll be concerned, and any brand loyalty for Fram goes right out the window.
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#4553454 - 10/24/17 07:21 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
TTK Offline


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The old adage applies . "Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see."
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#4553462 - 10/24/17 07:26 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
goodtimes Offline


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Karma is usually not this fast. Maybe I do believe in it.

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#4553488 - 10/24/17 07:52 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
aquariuscsm Offline


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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
That is why you open the box before you ever buy if its not and online buy. So now you have to ask was this an online buy or a lazy buy?


What sucks about Ultras,is that the boxes are sealed,so you'd have to pop the seal to inspect it. Unless the can style Ultras are the only ones that are sealed.
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#4553496 - 10/24/17 07:59 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: aquariuscsm]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
That is why you open the box before you ever buy if its not and online buy. So now you have to ask was this an online buy or a lazy buy?


What sucks about Ultras,is that the boxes are sealed,so you'd have to pop the seal to inspect it. Unless the can style Ultras are the only ones that are sealed.


I was able to inspect my Ultra's at Walmart they had three on the shelf. In fact one of them turned out not to be an XG can it was an Ultra that contained a Tough Guard. Someone got a self generated Ultra sale.
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#4553504 - 10/24/17 08:04 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: TTK]
CT8 Offline


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Originally Posted By: TTK
The old adage applies . "Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see."
Seems the filter element is half glued now what??
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#4553515 - 10/24/17 08:13 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG9972 defective out of box [Re: Mainia]
Mainia Offline


Registered: 04/06/15
Posts: 229
Loc: Upper midwest
The old adage applies. "Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see."

And

Karma??

Really, it's a freaking bad filter......

No glue is no glue, you can see it was not pulled off and and also see where they tried to glue it.



So you are saying this filter has value for more filters? That I will have to think about. Makes me want to get an oil filter cutter to follow quality now, but the problem is it's after the fact.

I almost was going to screw the cartridge up, but being anal I flipped the filter to have the writing facing up just before I was going to add oil to soak the filter. When I grabbed it to flip my thumb pushed the filter in with ease. It was what the flip!


Edited by Mainia (10/24/17 08:14 PM)

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