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#4551830 - 10/23/17 10:40 AM Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine?
LaszloToth Offline


Registered: 08/09/13
Posts: 50
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I have a turbo Subaru and like Shell's Rotella T series of oils. Any trade-off using a HD diesel oil in a petrol engine?

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#4551833 - 10/23/17 10:42 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 459
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If you can find the T6 5W-30 Multivehicle, let me know where please. I'm fairly positive it actually doesn't exist and Shell is just screwing with me.

To answer your question, no there isn't a "trade-off" with using a HDEO as long as it meets the specs your engine requires.


Edited by JustN89 (10/23/17 10:43 AM)

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#4551845 - 10/23/17 11:01 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
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Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 5622
Loc: South Florida
You should probably make sure it has a gas rating (SN) to be safe on a newer car (on an older car, who cares). Rotella is removing gas ratings from many of its diesel oils.

Look at Delo. Most I have seen are still dual rated.
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#4551854 - 10/23/17 11:05 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
ZZman Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 5772
Loc: Michigan
I was gonna ask who sells the multi vehicle T6.

But they are good oils.
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#4551869 - 10/23/17 11:18 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
LaszloToth Offline


Registered: 08/09/13
Posts: 50
Loc: Toronto, Canada
In Canada I get Rotella T5 5W-30 and T6 5W40 from Canadian Tire, but it's also available from Partsource (a Jobber) and Princess Auto (a farm parts supplier).



Edited by LaszloToth (10/23/17 11:22 AM)
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#4551891 - 10/23/17 11:37 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
dwendt44 Offline


Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3967
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Rotella has been used in gasoline engines for decades.
It has seen service in thousands of motorcycles and perhaps
millions of OPE engines.
While Shell maybe removing the SN gas rating from the packaging,
it's still a highly regarded oil for use in gas engines of all kinds.


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#4551894 - 10/23/17 11:40 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
Eddie Offline


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I'd call the local SHELL distributor to find Rotella multi-vehicle oil. Ed
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#4551923 - 10/23/17 12:06 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 4050
Loc: Midwest USA
Rotella 15W40 is a popular choice among motorcyclists as well.
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#4551992 - 10/23/17 01:24 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
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Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 11963
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
Never liked diesel oil in stead of a good passenger car 40. Never ran as good or as fast or as smooth. I have run mixed fleet 10w30 triple protect. it did fine as an amendment to keep the big V8 sized pistons in the EJ Subaru motors happy when thrashed. The sump did respond to a Qt or 2 of Formula Shell 5w30. Only if you drive a car a lot would you notice. The car also did well on 2qt Mobil Clean 5000 and balance of 2+qts Mobil clean 500 5w30. This may have been in the API SL days smile

Why don't you try some motorbike oil? A Good 4T like Castrol Power?
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#4552036 - 10/23/17 02:23 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2673
Loc: South Carolina
Diesel rated oils usually have higher levels of ZDDP, which I would not worry much about in an older car, but on a newer car I would look for a passenger car oil that has good anti-wear. The newest Mobil 1 0W-40 and 5W-30 formulations seems to test out very well for anti-wear and film strength per this guy: Motor Oil Engineering Test Data: Facts, not Myth Scroll down to his anti-wear rankings after you get tired of reading the extra-long, repetetive prologue. These 2 commonly found oils seemed to do very well in his testing for extreme wear situations. Of course, formulations can change on the fly without us knowing....

He also lists his ratings for temps when thermal breakdown starts, possibly giving you a relative comparison point between any oils that you are considering using.

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#4552086 - 10/23/17 03:12 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
jongies3 Offline


Registered: 03/11/16
Posts: 795
Loc: MT
Never heard of T5 Ultra before, what's that all about?
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#4552111 - 10/23/17 03:39 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: jongies3]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2673
Loc: South Carolina
Newest spec oil for over the road diesels that optimizes fuel economy and performs better in most areas. Not sure if backwards compatible though.

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#4552174 - 10/23/17 04:55 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: JustN89]
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Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6141
Loc: USA
You might get like .00000001 mpg less and your catalytic converter might not make it to 500k LOL

But it is a quality oil that will give you no problems smile

Originally Posted By: JustN89
If you can find the T6 5W-30 Multivehicle, let me know where please. I'm fairly positive it actually doesn't exist and Shell is just screwing with me.

To answer your question, no there isn't a "trade-off" with using a HDEO as long as it meets the specs your engine requires.


approved

The only 5w30 synthetic HDEO I know of that you can actually buy is Chevron Delo LE, on Amazon.

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#4552206 - 10/23/17 05:19 PM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
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Registered: 08/04/03
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#4552946 - 10/24/17 11:35 AM Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth]
ChrisGuerrero Offline


Registered: 01/30/15
Posts: 82
Loc: Houston, TX
Hi LaszloToth, yes, Rotella products exceed gasoline engine manufacturers limitations on Phosphorus, which degrades the catalytic converter. Hope this helps! - The Rotella Team

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