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Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? #4551830
10/23/17 09:40 AM
10/23/17 09:40 AM
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LaszloToth Offline OP
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I have a turbo Subaru and like Shell's Rotella T series of oils. Any trade-off using a HD diesel oil in a petrol engine?



White '11 STi
Buckle up. The new Subaru WRX STi is here.
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551833
10/23/17 09:42 AM
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If you can find the T6 5W-30 Multivehicle, let me know where please. I'm fairly positive it actually doesn't exist and Shell is just screwing with me.

To answer your question, no there isn't a "trade-off" with using a HDEO as long as it meets the specs your engine requires.

Last edited by JustN89; 10/23/17 09:43 AM.
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551845
10/23/17 10:01 AM
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You should probably make sure it has a gas rating (SN) to be safe on a newer car (on an older car, who cares). Rotella is removing gas ratings from many of its diesel oils.

Look at Delo. Most I have seen are still dual rated.


17 Chrysler Pacifica Mobil 1 5W30
13 Yamaha XT250 Valv MC 10W40
10 Acura TSX 2.4 Maxlife Syn 5W30
06 GMC Sierra Nextgen 10W30


Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551854
10/23/17 10:05 AM
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I was gonna ask who sells the multi vehicle T6.

But they are good oils.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Motul 7100 10w-40 and K&N
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551869
10/23/17 10:18 AM
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LaszloToth Offline OP
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In Canada I get Rotella T5 5W-30 and T6 5W40 from Canadian Tire, but it's also available from Partsource (a Jobber) and Princess Auto (a farm parts supplier).


Last edited by LaszloToth; 10/23/17 10:22 AM.

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Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551891
10/23/17 10:37 AM
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Rotella has been used in gasoline engines for decades.
It has seen service in thousands of motorcycles and perhaps
millions of OPE engines.
While Shell maybe removing the SN gas rating from the packaging,
it's still a highly regarded oil for use in gas engines of all kinds.


My 2


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551894
10/23/17 10:40 AM
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I'd call the local SHELL distributor to find Rotella multi-vehicle oil. Ed


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551923
10/23/17 11:06 AM
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Rotella 15W40 is a popular choice among motorcyclists as well.



'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QS HM 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4551992
10/23/17 12:24 PM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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Never liked diesel oil in stead of a good passenger car 40. Never ran as good or as fast or as smooth. I have run mixed fleet 10w30 triple protect. it did fine as an amendment to keep the big V8 sized pistons in the EJ Subaru motors happy when thrashed. The sump did respond to a Qt or 2 of Formula Shell 5w30. Only if you drive a car a lot would you notice. The car also did well on 2qt Mobil Clean 5000 and balance of 2+qts Mobil clean 500 5w30. This may have been in the API SL days smile

Why don't you try some motorbike oil? A Good 4T like Castrol Power?


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4552036
10/23/17 01:23 PM
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Diesel rated oils usually have higher levels of ZDDP, which I would not worry much about in an older car, but on a newer car I would look for a passenger car oil that has good anti-wear. The newest Mobil 1 0W-40 and 5W-30 formulations seems to test out very well for anti-wear and film strength per this guy: Motor Oil Engineering Test Data: Facts, not Myth Scroll down to his anti-wear rankings after you get tired of reading the extra-long, repetetive prologue. These 2 commonly found oils seemed to do very well in his testing for extreme wear situations. Of course, formulations can change on the fly without us knowing....

He also lists his ratings for temps when thermal breakdown starts, possibly giving you a relative comparison point between any oils that you are considering using.

Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4552086
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Never heard of T5 Ultra before, what's that all about?


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM TG-3600 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30 Napa Gold 1515 filter
1997 Ford F-250 HD 7.3 Powerstroke V8: T6 5W-40 FRAM PH-3786 filter
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: jongies3] #4552111
10/23/17 02:39 PM
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Newest spec oil for over the road diesels that optimizes fuel economy and performs better in most areas. Not sure if backwards compatible though.

Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: JustN89] #4552174
10/23/17 03:55 PM
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You might get like .00000001 mpg less and your catalytic converter might not make it to 500k LOL

But it is a quality oil that will give you no problems smile

Originally Posted By: JustN89
If you can find the T6 5W-30 Multivehicle, let me know where please. I'm fairly positive it actually doesn't exist and Shell is just screwing with me.

To answer your question, no there isn't a "trade-off" with using a HDEO as long as it meets the specs your engine requires.


approved

The only 5w30 synthetic HDEO I know of that you can actually buy is Chevron Delo LE, on Amazon.

Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4552206
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'04 Subaru Forester 2.5XT
Castrol Edge High Mileage
Re: Any trade-offs Using Rotella T in a Gas Engine? [Re: LaszloToth] #4552946
10/24/17 10:35 AM
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Hi LaszloToth, yes, Rotella products exceed gasoline engine manufacturers limitations on Phosphorus, which degrades the catalytic converter. Hope this helps! - The Rotella Team

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