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2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation #4551698
10/23/17 07:38 AM
10/23/17 07:38 AM
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South Texas
Wojo Offline OP
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South Texas
Hey guys, I recently bought a new 2017 F-150 with the 2.7 ecoboost. I am getting close to my first oil change and I would like some oil recommendations. The owners manual suggests “premium full synthetic 5W20.” The truck is used for a lot of short trips throughout the week with one or two longer tips (100 miles round trip). We also use the truck for traveling Simi-regularly.i live in Deep South Texas close to Corpus Christi where it gets real hot and not very cold. I don’t use the truck for hauling or pulling, but I do have a tendency to put the pedal down. Average highway speed is 80.

I’ve been thinking about Royal Purple just because I know a guy who is a mechanic for the border patrol down here and he said they use it for their trucks and suv’s With 16,000 mile oil change intervals. However, they change the filter every 4,000 I believe.

What I’m looking for is something that will give me great protection for the Turbos and auto start/stop.

Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551706
10/23/17 07:45 AM
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Any Full Synthetic that meets your warranty spec is going to give you good protection and it isn't going to cost you $38 a gallon.


2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551712
10/23/17 07:50 AM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
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If it was my truck, 5,000 mile oil change intervals with Pennzoil Platinum (or similar top tier syn). I wouldn't let the truck oil reminder dictate my oil change interval. The oil change reminder probably pushes it to 10,000 miles. Ford doesn't care once you're past warranty. Trust that, I know from (plenty of) experience.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551727
10/23/17 08:08 AM
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I'm surprised that Ford calls for 5w20 in a turbo'd engine.....they want 5w30 in their Focus ST.
I would use any name brand 5w20 synthetic sold at Walmart and change it every 5 or 6K. I might switch to 5w30 after warranty in your hot climate (depending on UOA results)
Even Walmart's own synthetic should be good for that mileage.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: pbm] #4551743
10/23/17 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: pbm
I'm surprised that Ford calls for 5w20 in a turbo'd engine.....they want 5w30 in their Focus ST.
I would use any name brand 5w20 synthetic sold at Walmart and change it every 5 or 6K. I might switch to 5w30 after warranty in your hot climate (depending on UOA results)
Even Walmart's own synthetic should be good for that mileage.



I'm surprised too with the 5W20 spec. I'd probably opt for 5W30 if it were mine.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551745
10/23/17 08:31 AM
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Reread the manual carefully and use what oil spec the manual specs. 5W-20 is NOT the recommended viscosity. Syn or semi syn the results will be the same.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551766
10/23/17 08:56 AM
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I believe the 2.7 requires 5W-30. Ford discovered that the turbocharged engines have very high internal loads and high localized oil temperatures. The best choice will be a full synthetic, name brand oil that is available everywhere. I use 10W-30 Mobil 1 EP in my 3.5 ecoboost with very good results. I'm in South Florida where it never gets cold, so a 5 viscosity oil is not necessary.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551780
10/23/17 09:16 AM
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Oklahoma
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Ford requires 5w30. Says "Synthetic Blend." I've had great success with Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic in my 2.7.




2016 Ford F150 Xlt 2.7L
Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 0w40
Motorcraft FL2062
Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551782
10/23/17 09:19 AM
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The Garden State
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Even the Mobil site specs 0/5W-30 oils. I believe the 5W-20 is for the NA 3.5(non turbo)engine. It's the same with my 2017 Explorer, the two turbo engines spec 5W-30 and the non turbo 3.5 specs 5W-20. As for the iOLM system it seems to click down 10% of oil life for every 1,000 miles driven. It doesn't seem to matter what the season or the type of driving.

Whimsey

Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551803
10/23/17 10:09 AM
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Colorado
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Colorado
I understand that the 2018 spec allows 0w30. If that spec is backward applicable to 2017, you might think about M1 0w30 AFE. Check it out to make sure the spec is backward compatible for your vehicle first. If not, like PBM said any syn/synblend at Walmart (motorcraft, Pennzoil, Valvoline, etc) and a good filter should serve you well.


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07 Honda Fit
96 Ford Bronco 4x4

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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551866
10/23/17 11:17 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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I really liked the QSUD 10w30 I last used. Latest Castrol Magnatec Synthetic 5w30 is stunning also. This all tried in a non turbo app.

Everything else - ho hum as far as power and seat-of-the-pants responsiveness goes.

Gasoline quality is paramount also to a continued good running engine.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#9 41392mi-QSUD10W30 + M110A CHAMP Filter; 2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551873
10/23/17 11:21 AM
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Santa Barbara, CA
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It calls for 5W30 not 5W20. A lot of times in the manuals it will list all available engines. The non EB V6 and the 5.0L take 5W20.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: pbm] #4551892
10/23/17 11:38 AM
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Colorado
Kuato Offline
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Originally Posted By: pbm
I'm surprised that Ford calls for 5w20 in a turbo'd engine.....they want 5w30 in their Focus ST.
I would use any name brand 5w20 synthetic sold at Walmart and change it every 5 or 6K. I might switch to 5w30 after warranty in your hot climate (depending on UOA results)
Even Walmart's own synthetic should be good for that mileage.



Me too...I thought the EB engines in trucks were all 5w30...in fact after a short internet search, they ARE specified for 5w30...as also reflected in the numerous posts above.

And especially since OP said:

Originally Posted By: Wojo
...
The truck is used for a lot of short trips throughout the week ...
I live in Deep South Texas close to Corpus Christi where it gets real hot...
... I do have a tendency to put the pedal down. Average highway speed is 80.


I'd go with 5w30 anyway with the fuel dilution, high temps and heavy usage. Maybe a light 40 grade oil


It's true that any name brand oil will protect well - it's just choosing the correct interval for that oil in your vehicle. RP has been shown to not be the best for extended intervals (couldn't find the threads) by UOA. Wojo if you want the longer interval of 15k you're looking at Amsoil or M1 EP. No need to change the filter every few thousand either, get yourself a Fram Ultra or Amsoil which will be good for at least 15k.

Last edited by Kuato; 10/23/17 11:40 AM.

Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551897
10/23/17 11:42 AM
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5600 feet elevation, Arizona
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Check out KJ Smith in the UOA section. He used Magnatec in a 3.5 EB F150 out to 10k miles and gets what I think is a great report. Currently using in the wife’s ‘17 EB Expedition.


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Re: 2017 F150 stx with 2.7 Ecoboost oil recommendation [Re: Wojo] #4551936
10/23/17 12:24 PM
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http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_C...-CA_12_2016.pdf
page 392 - for the 2.7 EB (same goes for the 3.5L EB, on page 401)
Specifically requires "WSS-M2C946-A". That is a 5w-30 lube spec. IT IS NOT, REPEAT NOT, A SPEC FOR ANY KIND OF SYN, SEMI-SYN, ETC.

I would use a lube that meets that spec, and follow the IOLM while under warranty. There are, despite the fear mongering, several conventional lubes that meet that spec including Mobil Super, Valvoline, Pennzoil, etc. These carry the official Ford license for that specification. There are certainly semi-syn and full syn lubes that also meet that spec. But as long as the lubes meet that spec, they will do fine. Ford does NOT specify using a "synthetic" or otherwise. Any lube that meets their spec is assured to do what is needed. Marketing hype will have you believe that a lube needs to be syn for this application. Nothing can be further from the truth.
Can you use a syn? Absolutely yes.
Does you engine require a syn? Absolutely not.

examples here, but not limited to only these ...
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/b...0-Motor-Oil.pdf
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...10-ac162d889bd3
https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-super/mobil-super
https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/5DEAD6CF2F00966880258034005B0DB0/$File/BPXE-AAXEC9.pdf



Last edited by dnewton3; 10/23/17 12:26 PM.

The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
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