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Napa 0W20 Interval #4551469
10/22/17 09:20 PM
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I am using some on sale Napa 0W20 oil in a 3.5 V6 Toyota that holds about 6.5 Quarts. The owner's manual says 10,000 miles or 1 yr max interval. I know only a UOA could tell me for sure, but is NAPA Full Synthetic capable of 10,000, 7500, or 5000 intervals? Until this run, I have only used TGMO at 9-10000 miles intervals. Thanks

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551473
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Originally Posted By: oilstudent24
I am using some on sale Napa 0W20 oil in a 3.5 V6 Toyota that holds about 6.5 Quarts. The owner's manual says 10,000 miles or 1 yr max interval. I know only a UOA could tell me for sure, but is NAPA Full Synthetic capable of 10,000, 7500, or 5000 intervals? Until this run, I have only used TGMO at 9-10000 miles intervals. Thanks


I would more than suspect it is since its made by Valvoline!

I have some NAPA full synthetic in my stash for that very reason.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/22/17 09:23 PM.

2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551474
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Whether 5K, 7.5K, or 10K depends more on your usage, environment, and driving style than the oil. But it should be able to handle 1 or more of those. I'm sure the oil is capable of much more than 10K miles if steady highway driving for 300 miles per day.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551485
10/22/17 09:35 PM
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A UOA would let you know for sure but those engines seem pretty easy on oil. I recently posted a UOA on that engine on Mag 1 Synthetic that was very good. The oil Toyota puts in them is nothing special and thousands of vehicles are out there running 10k OCI on it and other oils without a second thought. Toyota specifies a 10k OCI with no other specifications other than API SN. If you're not going to do a UOA I wouldn't have any issues following the owners manual OCI on the Napa Synthetic.


Luke
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Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551486
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If it meets the specs. It should run for the 10k.

However, i dont trust that 10k mess regardless of the oil. I chage at tye oil light which is 5k on my sienna.

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551539
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TGMO is a blend at best (and a darn good one).
NAPA Syn would be at least equal, if not better (better being a relative term) to TGMO.

IMO, if you were comfortable doing 10k changes with TGMO, you should be even more comfortable doing 10k changes with NAPA Syn.

Again, without a UOA on either in your engine, no way to know for sure, but as mentioned, it meets the spec Toyota has put out and recommends 10k changes.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: blupupher] #4551571
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
Toyota has put out and recommends 10k changes.


Can the oil stay clean for that long ?

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551586
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For my M&P : I’m using it after approximately every 200 rounds fired.

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551652
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Originally Posted By: oilstudent24
I am using some on sale Napa 0W20 oil in a 3.5 V6 Toyota that holds about 6.5 Quarts. The owner's manual says 10,000 miles or 1 yr max interval. I know only a UOA could tell me for sure, but is NAPA Full Synthetic capable of 10,000, 7500, or 5000 intervals? Until this run, I have only used TGMO at 9-10000 miles intervals. Thanks


You may be putting too much faith in UOAs, with the exception of TBN. UOAs are more suited for detecting oil contamination from dirt, fuel and coolant.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551674
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I have always considered NAPA synthetic to be a 7500 mile oil based on the assumption that it's a slightly weaker version of VSP (which I don't consider an extended OCI synthetic). On the other hand, the fact that Toyota allows 10K OCIs on regular SN synthetics should be reassuring. You'll never know without running a UOA.

PS: I'm not sure that I agree that NAPA syn. is better than TGMO or even that TGMO is a blend.....


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Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: tig1] #4551746
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Originally Posted By: tig1
You may be putting too much faith in UOAs, with the exception of TBN. UOAs are more suited for detecting oil contamination from dirt, fuel and coolant.


I think a good UOA should show viscosity breakdown. As for contaminants it should also show wear metals. If those two metrics are OK you should be good for longer runs.


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Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551802
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I'm not a big fan of napa brand syn. It really thinned.
I used it in my subaru for 4months and 2600miles during the winter.
(the severe service interval is 3.75months)

when I drained it.. looked like black thin toilet water.
also had more startup noise from the timing chain tensioner which uses oil pressure.

Didnt use it again in that car.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551888
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Mobil I 0W-20 in five quart jug from Walmart. Very good synthetic at a bargain price. Denso or OEM oil and air filter. banana

Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4551951
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I just recently installed 0W 20 Napa Full Syn in our 2.4L Jeep Renegade and the manual says 1year/10k or oil light, that is what I followed and I'm confident in the oil but I do a UOA for fun so in about 10 months I'll post it, but first I'll post the UOA of Pennzoil Platinum I just mailed, the oil light both times has illuminated at 7,500k.
Thanks TOTO.


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Re: Napa 0W20 Interval [Re: oilstudent24] #4552177
10/23/17 04:57 PM
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It will perfectly capable of 10k where that is the factory-spec OCI such as in your Toyota. Napa Synthetic is rebranded Synpower. I think TGMO is made by XOM, and the synthetic TGMO is probably Mobil Super Synthetic, and Synpower is probably on par with MSS/TGMO smile

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