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1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics #4549886
10/21/17 06:17 AM
10/21/17 06:17 AM
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Toms River, NJ
Jason_Michaels Offline OP
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Toms River, NJ




5spd with stock carb. Unknown oil life or OCI. Did a few short PYB flushes and will probably run PYB 15-40. Needs timing chain guides and a steering damper. Fun winter project.

Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549896
10/21/17 06:25 AM
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Indiana
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Looks like a neat little truck. Not bad given it's age, lack of fuel injection and (I would assume) unknown history.

The fuel pump looks easily accessible. laugh


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549899
10/21/17 06:26 AM
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Bremerton, WA
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Lots of heat, below average oil flow. They all pretty much look like this.

I actually snapped a cam in one of these.


Pushrods, please.
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549906
10/21/17 06:33 AM
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Upstate NY
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Upstate NY
Is that rust starting? I would spray with CarWell or FF before winter to slow it down.

Engine looks great for it's age.


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Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549915
10/21/17 06:43 AM
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ST Augustine, FL
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ST Augustine, FL
15W40 is way too thick, especially going into Winter in NJ. I would run a "0" w oil, or 5W30 as the thickest.


2010 Rav4 4cyl 131K QSUD 0W20 Baldwin bypass filter
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Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549926
10/21/17 07:01 AM
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The Old North State
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While the purists, perfectly clean synthetic only oci may disagree, at 148k miles unknown maintenance history, I don't think this valve train looks too bad. Some varnish, not bad. Relatively speaking significantly better than a recent Civic valve train posted with what was described as having 'decent' maintenance.

Looks like you got a truck with many miles left in it.

Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549938
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Looks fine to me.

I just did a full timing set, and a new head and gasket back in August of this year on my 22RE. I used the Cloyes Heavy Duty set with the driver side steel backed guide. My timing cover was chain grooved up pretty good, so I replaced it with a $35 Enginetech.

If the harmonic balancer has a groove in it, and I suspect it will with that many miles then a Toyota 90311-45014 Type-T Timing Cover oil seal will fix it right up. It's thinner than the original, and the seal will ride in a different spot. Drive the seal all the way home in the oil pump while the pump is on the bench.

If I had the money at the time, I would have converted mine to double roller, but that requires a different timing cover, and a notch has to be cut on the business side of the valve cover.


1992 Toyota Pickup--Harvest King Premium 10W-30--Fram PH3614
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: BigD1] #4549955
10/21/17 07:37 AM
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California
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Replace the timing chain, sprockets and guides soon or that sloppy chain will wear a hole in the timing chain cover (right into a water passage)


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Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Billbert] #4549976
10/21/17 08:03 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Originally Posted By: Billbert
Replace the timing chain, sprockets and guides soon or that sloppy chain will wear a hole in the timing chain cover (right into a water passage)
x2


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
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Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
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Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4549994
10/21/17 08:22 AM
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FL
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Can replace the carb if needed with a Weber 32/36 DGEV I believe.I took apart my old 89 22r with 265,000 on it and aside from timing chain, looked really good inside, bores included.Edit: 25 years ago i bought a Downey header for the truck,rebuilt the engine, lost interest, sold to my father in law.That header is still in good condition.truck still used and runs perfect.

Last edited by 9050lx; 10/21/17 08:26 AM.
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4550041
10/21/17 09:06 AM
10/21/17 09:06 AM
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Jupiter, Florida
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Jokingly, those Toyota trucks seem not to need oil, antifreeze or sparkplugs. They simply run and run with the most minimal of care.

Thanks for the pics, looks quite nice.


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4550131
10/21/17 10:30 AM
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Canada
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I have used these trucks as daily drivers since the early 80's I am now on my third, which happens to be an 84 model.

It's predecessor ran faultless for 500k miles befor rust made it too ugly to keep.

As stated they are not fussy about which oil you use, but the timing chain can be an issue if you find it starts making a noise.

Basically there is a chain guide made of plasic that can break and allow the chain to wear into the side of the cover exactly where the water pump sits. If the chain wears through (it takes some time for this to happen and makes a heck of a noise) coolant will leak into your engine oil and you will have big problems!

Fortunatly there is a readily available, replacment, steel backed chain rail kit that negate this problem.

My 84 has yet to develope this problem, but I have a timing chain kit on hand just in case.

If you keep that rust at bay you can expect a L O N G life from that truck

Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4550173
10/21/17 11:45 AM
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Fort Worth TX
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Sweet truck, how much did you pay for it? Also +1 on all the comments about the timing chain, one of the only issues with these trucks.


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Sayjac] #4550210
10/21/17 12:37 PM
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Colorado
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
While the purists, perfectly clean synthetic only oci may disagree, at 148k miles unknown maintenance history, I don't think this valve train looks too bad. Some varnish, not bad. Relatively speaking significantly better than a recent Civic valve train posted with what was described as having 'decent' maintenance.

Looks like you got a truck with many miles left in it.


Agree. My brother had this vintage truck and it would have lasted forever, except for the valve guides (known problem) and the radiator, of which he had three. So change the valve guides and make sure the coolant is fresh and it should last a long, long time.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: 1987 Toyota 22R 148KMi Valve cover pics [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4550213
10/21/17 12:39 PM
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Buckley, Wa.
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I had an '87 4x4 Toyota with the 22R-E. I LOVED that pickup and that reliable little engine. Drove it across the U.S. in the middle of winter. I still miss it.


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