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14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? #4549762
10/20/17 11:24 PM
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2014 F-150 with Ecoboost engoine, 12k miles on it. If they are price-equivalent, what would you put in it? MC Syn blend or PZ full syn 5/30? Both would use a FL-500S MC filter.

I understand it came from the factory with the MC blend and filter and I've done 3 OC with that setup 'just because' and was according to the OLM. I have lots of short trips and a few scattered 50-75 mile trips now and then.

If they are price-equivalent what would you go for? It's covered under a Ford 100k, 8 year extended warranty.

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549767
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I would pick any Full synthetic over any blend 7 days a week. You can usually find Full synthetic on sale and with a rebate cheaper than just going to an Auto parts store and buying what's on the shelf.


2004 Corolla 124642
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4549775
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I would pick any Full synthetic over any blend 7 days a week. You can usually find Full synthetic on sale and with a rebate cheaper than just going to an Auto parts store and buying what's on the shelf.


Yep, this.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549829
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I wouldn't use a paper oil filter in it. I'd get a Wix 57502XP or a Royal Purple 20-500.

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549843
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PP 5W30 Full Synthetic. It's A5/B5 last time I looked. Plus all the regular specs SN, GF-5, Dexos, Ford 929 & 946, etc


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549863
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If you look at the Ecoboosts in the UOA section the best results have been with Castrol Magnetech.


"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549868
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At 12k miles the engine is still breaking in. I'd go a run or two more on the MC synblend to make sure the rings get seated properly. Then you can switch to full synthetic.


92 Suburban 2500 7.4L 58k M1_0w40 5yr OCI
99 Olds Aurora 4.0L 91K M1_5w30 5yr OCI
13 Dodge Dart 2.0L 30k PP 0w20 OLM OCI
70 Camaro 5.7L 59k
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549870
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"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549903
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Castrol Magnatec or anything with the Dexos1 Gen2 cert.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 200k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4549918
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My 2016 has the same drivetrain. It seems that blends have better LSPI characteristics in direct injection turbo engines. They might not be as good at other factors, like timing chain wear though. I have run castrol 0w40 since 1000miles and switched over to PUP 5w30 this fall for the winter because it was on sale, at 6000 miles. I will probably stick to the 0w40 year round from now on, due to fuel dilution and shearing factors in this engine. It strikes me that the timing chain is very long and probably needs all the help it can get.

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: CT8] #4550007
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Originally Posted By: CT8
If you look at the Ecoboosts in the UOA section the best results have been with Castrol Magnetech.



And it's only a dollar more than the MC blend at Wal-Mart


2017 Ford F150 NAPA syn 5w30 Fram 11955.
2000 Chevy 2500 Silverado PYB 5w30 AC Delco Filter
Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4550099
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If running Pennzoil I'd look for the dexos gen2 cert, which i think they now have. Should work well. I'm going with Mobil 1 AP in my 2.7 for the add pack and higher viscosity while under warranty.

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: askani79705] #4550858
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DirtyApe Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: askani79705
Originally Posted By: CT8
If you look at the Ecoboosts in the UOA section the best results have been with Castrol Magnetech.



And it's only a dollar more than the MC blend at Wal-Mart


I've seen this one in the green bottle

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: bigt61] #4550860
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Originally Posted By: bigt61
At 12k miles the engine is still breaking in. I'd go a run or two more on the MC synblend to make sure the rings get seated properly. Then you can switch to full synthetic.


Hadn't thought that deeply on it; figured it was seated already but not? wow.

Re: 14 F-150 Ecoboost -12k miles -MC blend or PZ Full? [Re: DirtyApe] #4550866
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So then on a bit of a slight tangent here - Fram Ultra or MC FL500s filter for any nof these oils

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