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Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months #4548119
10/19/17 09:36 AM
10/19/17 09:36 AM
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Corollaman Offline OP
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It cost $49 I thought it would last longer being a Johnson's controls battery. I do a lot of short trips maybe that's the root cause.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548140
10/19/17 09:58 AM
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ON, Canada eh?
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ON, Canada eh?
I used to have horrible problems with Exide batteries so I switched to Interstate then they started having issues so I moved to Johnson controls from Walmart (not the value line) and they had problems so I went back to Exide and they seem to be lasting again.

shrug I found a place around the corner from me that carries Odyssey batteries that use virgin lead and are guaranteed for 10 years I think I might do that next or buy their AGM battery.


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548141
10/19/17 10:00 AM
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Sounds good to me. A $150 parts store battery would have to have lived for 6 years to break even, which I doubt it would. I've got one in my Camry and one in the grandparent's Trailblazer. Batteries in the Trailblazer seem to last only 2 years and the $49 Walmart one is 14 months old. It's already paid for itself at this point


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548145
10/19/17 10:02 AM
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You mean ValuePower? Those are the same awful batteries the auto parts store I work at sells with 1-year warranty. They're just not reliable. That said, to be as cheap as possible I put a size 65 of those in my 05 Ram 4.7 since I'm going to flip it soon anyway. It'll be interesting to see if it survives until I sell that truck. In the mean time, however, it seems to be cranking over the engine just fine. Funny thing is that battery retails at $109.99, cost me just under $50, that's a lot of profit for the parts store. And when customers bring those in for charge&tests, they're almost always bad past 2 years.

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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548177
10/19/17 10:28 AM
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mclasser Offline
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Can't expect much from a $49 battery.


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548180
10/19/17 10:29 AM
10/19/17 10:29 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Reddy45 Offline
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The short trips could be it, along with something in the car that continually draws power. Batteries like to be charged up.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: mclasser] #4548181
10/19/17 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: mclasser
Can't expect much from a $49 battery.
I've had one in an infrequently used Camry for more than two years. Still cranking fine.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548184
10/19/17 10:33 AM
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I have a few of them in different cars and they've all been doing fine.


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548187
10/19/17 10:35 AM
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Wet side WA
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$49 you get what you pay for. The last batteries I bought at Sears both DieHards lasted over 8 years. My current batteries well who knows but they've already made it more than a year. More time will tell. But I've paid good money for good batteries on sale and they have out lasted their warranty everyone of them.


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548190
10/19/17 10:36 AM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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I have one of them in my truck (bought it in July this year). If I get 2 years, I will be happy.
AutoZone Gold lasted me 4 years (it was a pro-rated replacement, the other one lasted 2 years, but sat for 1 year).

It was $50 with 12 month warranty. The Maxx was $99 with 5 year (3 year replace, 2 year pro-rata). I figure 2 years will be the break even point.
I am doing monthly overnight charges (2 amp setting) and making sure my fluid stays filled. Figure that will get me at least 2 years, and maybe more.

I probably will not use one in my wife's car (hers was replaced in December last year, I got a Gold battery from Advance), or any other family members unless they were getting rid of the vehicle in a year or so.


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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548193
10/19/17 10:38 AM
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Recommend a float charger if you have a garage. I'm in the habit ( no particular reason, I just am) of using it every night. Battery only deteriorates by about 10 CCA per year.
It would be interesting to know how little you could use the float charger and get a significant beneficial effect.
For a short haul driver like me, I'm guessing once a week would give me a 'normal' battery life.

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Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548205
10/19/17 10:49 AM
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I gave one these a shot 24F on a Tacoma when Autocraft Gold quit early summer. Currently it's only driven 5-6k miles a year and sits outside. Think heat a factor in previous battery life. So, time will tell how long it lasts. I have occasionally put a battery maintainer on it to charge it up. No idea if that will make a difference.

~2years, not awful imo for a one year warrantied battery.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548244
10/19/17 11:17 AM
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Corollaman, what's your plan for replacement? If you go with another Value one, maybe you can periodically put it on a charger to top off and see if it lasts longer? Might be a fun test.

The 24F from Costco in my Honda is coming up on 4 years now, still going strong. I top it off occasionally so that might help.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548255
10/19/17 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Corollaman
It cost $49 I thought it would last longer being a Johnson's controls battery. I do a lot of short trips maybe that's the root cause.


Why would you think that? You did buy from Walmart, which puts severe stress on companies to hit price point.

Anyone can produce junk.

That said, for $49, don't think you can complain much.

Re: Value start Walmart battery dead at 23 months [Re: Corollaman] #4548283
10/19/17 11:44 AM
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buy cheap, get...

I have always had good luck with AC Delco or duralast batteries personally.


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