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Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel #4547686
10/18/17 09:17 PM
10/18/17 09:17 PM
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Venezuela, South America
Emanuel Offline OP
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Some months ago I read in this and in another forums that some people have added TCW3 2 Stroke Outboard Oil in a very small proportion in their fuel (640:1). I have read the people that have tried this and I have never seen no one regreting doing this, most of the people reported a increase in the smoothness of the engine, cleaner spark plugs, piston tops and even tail pipes and a slightly increase in fuel economy.

I have a 285k 01 Corolla thats burning 1 qt of oil every 1k miles, there arent any leaks, the engine has power and there arent signs of smoke neither in the morning or when Im pushing the engine hard, I think that is just the way it is in this old engine, my guess is that the oil control rings arent doing their job properly. What Im trying to accomplish with the 2 Cycle Outboard Oil is to improve the seal in the piston rings with this oil and reduce the carbon desposits that can be caused by the burning of oil.

I hope it helps to lower my oil consumption and even if it doesnt Im pretty sure that the detergents in this oil will help to keep the combustion chamber clean. Im gonna use the recommended ratio of 640:1

Today I added 60 cm3 of TW3 Oil to 50 liters of gas, so Im running a 833:1 ratio, this is gonna be a log where I report what happens with this experiment.

Last edited by Emanuel; 10/18/17 09:19 PM.
Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547689
10/18/17 09:22 PM
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On another group I belong to there has been much success in this keeping combustion chambers cleaner. I look forward to your results. wink


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547760
10/18/17 11:34 PM
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I think you are just burning additional oil in your cylinders. .02.

Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547769
10/18/17 11:44 PM
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Honestly with such a low mix I doubt you'll accomplish anything.

At a higher mix the only thing that would happen would be to kill your catalytic. Not that it matters on such a high mileage car.

At 285k miles I'd say that little engine is done. If it works at a quart per thou, keep at it you've gotten your money's worth. I've had cars that do that with far fewer miles and according to the OEM "that's normal consumption".

Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547770
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I add 1oz tcw3 to 5 gallons of gas along with fuel stabilizer for winter. This is for my ope. I only use this mix for the last tanks of the year. I don't use any in any of my vehicles.


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547811
10/19/17 01:49 AM
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I would say go for it, you don't have anything to lose and it may very well help your engine out.

TCW-3 rated oil is not just some simple oil. TCW-3's are a mixture of stout lubricants and detergents with some light fuel stabilizing properties. 1 oz to 5 gallons is not that low of a treatment rate either. Stabil 360 marine fuel treatment treats at 1 oz per 10 gallons, claims to do everything under the sun and thousands of people absolutely swear by it and use it in every engine they own.


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547861
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I'm in the go for it camp as well. I would up the dose to the 640:1 mix which seems to be the sweet spot according to all the reading I've done on the topic. I'd probably replace the PCV valve with an OE part, and do a piston soak before hand and work from there. Keep us updated, I'd love to hear if different doses change anything.


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547863
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If you think it is stuck oil control rings vs worn out oil control rings you could try a can of BG109 before oil change. Seems to do a good job at cleaning up sticky deposits


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4547878
10/19/17 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
If you think it is stuck oil control rings vs worn out oil control rings you could try a can of BG109 before oil change. Seems to do a good job at cleaning up sticky deposits


+1.

If so, there may be benefits from it as an UCL, but no effect on oil rings. For that, a more direct approach is needed.

Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547885
10/19/17 06:14 AM
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BG109 goes in the crankcase, not the fuel tank


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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: Emanuel] #4547933
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You're in Venezuela. Do your cars require catalytic converters?

The 98-02 1.8L Corolla engines suffered from a bad piston design. The piston oil return holes clog. Nothing, nothing can clear them but removal to be chem dipped, drilled out, even add some holes. There are stories of running 20w50, stp syrup, etc. sto slow flow around the rings and the engines just keep going. So they are tough, and don't mind real thick oil. No doubt the rings are likely jammed buring and combusting so much oil, maybe a piston soak would help. But no way a dose of anything in the gas or oil will clear the carbonized holes



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Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: AMC] #4549609
10/20/17 08:07 PM
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Emanuel Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: AMC
I would say go for it, you don't have anything to lose and it may very well help your engine out.

TCW-3 rated oil is not just some simple oil. TCW-3's are a mixture of stout lubricants and detergents with some light fuel stabilizing properties. 1 oz to 5 gallons is not that low of a treatment rate either. Stabil 360 marine fuel treatment treats at 1 oz per 10 gallons, claims to do everything under the sun and thousands of people absolutely swear by it and use it in every engine they own.


Thats right, even if my oil consumption doesnt lowers I think that the detergent will clean some stuff

Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: demarpaint] #4549612
10/20/17 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'm in the go for it camp as well. I would up the dose to the 640:1 mix which seems to be the sweet spot according to all the reading I've done on the topic.


Yesterday I added more TCW3 and now Im with a 600:1 ratio, I have only driven 60 miles so far, I think I need to drive more miles to see benefits.

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'd probably replace the PCV valve with an OE part, and do a piston soak before hand and work from there. Keep us updated, I'd love to hear if different doses change anything.


I checked the PCV Valve 3k miles ago and it was clean, it sounded like it should when I shaked it and I could blow with my mouth from one side and I felt restriction sucking. Im pretty sure its okay.


Last edited by Emanuel; 10/20/17 08:12 PM.
Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4549621
10/20/17 08:14 PM
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Emanuel Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
If you think it is stuck oil control rings vs worn out oil control rings you could try a can of BG109 before oil change. Seems to do a good job at cleaning up sticky deposits


I live in Venezuela, I dont have any of those kind of products avaible. And I wouldnt like to do a piston soak, I love this engine to much and I think that piston soaks are for engines that you dont care about.

Re: Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel [Re: LeakySeals] #4549627
10/20/17 08:16 PM
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Emanuel Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
You're in Venezuela. Do your cars require catalytic converters?

The 98-02 1.8L Corolla engines suffered from a bad piston design. The piston oil return holes clog. Nothing, nothing can clear them but removal to be chem dipped, drilled out, even add some holes. There are stories of running 20w50, stp syrup, etc. sto slow flow around the rings and the engines just keep going. So they are tough, and don't mind real thick oil. No doubt the rings are likely jammed buring and combusting so much oil, maybe a piston soak would help. But no way a dose of anything in the gas or oil will clear the carbonized holes




My 01 Corolla has a 97 USA Corolla engine in it (7AFE), the 7afe is also known for burning oil not as much as the 1zzfe you are talking about but it does burn oil.

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