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Conklin Products? #4547016
10/18/17 10:08 AM
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Anyone seen this or have any experience with these products? This man now has over 900k miles on his stock shortblock 350. He says it's due to using Conklin's 15w40 Convoy oil and Fuel Mate Plus additive every fill up. Pretty incredible none the less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3MIuJ8veX0


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547035
10/18/17 10:22 AM
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I always laugh at these claims. The irony is, we dont know how many repairs have been done and how much it costed to keep on the road. Yes its still impressive based on mileage but still, it wouldnt be cost effective for most to bother still keep running.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547063
10/18/17 10:55 AM
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Conklin products are excellent quality and perform very well. I've been using them since the early 90s.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547073
10/18/17 11:12 AM
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My wife's uncle is a sales rep for Conklin, their products seem competent and carry the API starburst but it don't seem like anything special. I don't see any compelling reason to use it over any other synthetic oil you can buy at Walmart for less. I wouldn't search it out just because of some unsubstantiated YouTube video that's for sure. The guy really dosen't know that he may have achieved the same result using M1 or Castrol.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547085
10/18/17 11:30 AM
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It's a boutique oil for sure, but unlike Amsoil and such, it's impossible to find unless you know a dealer. I would give it a shot since it's claimed to be a true PAO based syn, unlike M1


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547116
10/18/17 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: 2012AccentSE
It's a boutique oil for sure, but unlike Amsoil and such, it's impossible to find unless you know a dealer. I would give it a shot since it's claimed to be a true PAO based syn, unlike M1

That will make it more better? There's nothing to indicate that the finished product would somehow be superior.

Some of their oil is described as a parasynthetic motor oil, I have a minor in Chemistry and I'm not really sure what that means. A semi-synthetic? It seems more like a term to obfuscate rather than inform.



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1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: kschachn] #4547131
10/18/17 12:04 PM
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I wonder how much moly and boron the oil contains? smile

Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547176
10/18/17 12:44 PM
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The "sell sheet" for the 5W30 indicates that the flash point is 416C (780F) and the pour point is -20C (-4F).
Seriously??

I'd guess that the FP is actually 416F (213C) and I can't see how a 5W30 that is CCS tested at -30C stops pouring at -20C, but what the heck do I know.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547183
10/18/17 12:48 PM
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This is the most info I've been able to find:

Viscosity at 100C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 10.7 cSt
Viscosity at 40C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 62.2 cSt
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-92) 163
Flash Point C (F) (ASTM D-92) 416C (780F)
Pour Point C (F) (ASTM D-97) -20C (-4F)
Fire Point C 442C (827F)
Total Base Number (TBN) 8.3


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547190
10/18/17 12:52 PM
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As Virtus_Probi points out, some of those numbers cannot be correct.

If they are that incompetent or careless to publish those numbers on their Sell Sheet then I'm even more convinced that something from the Walmart shelf (at a lower cost) is the right way to go.


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547209
10/18/17 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: 2012AccentSE
This is the most info I've been able to find:

Viscosity at 100C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 10.7 cSt
Viscosity at 40C, cSt (ASTM D-445) 62.2 cSt
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-92) 163
Flash Point C (F) (ASTM D-92) 416C (780F)
Pour Point C (F) (ASTM D-97) -20C (-4F)
Fire Point C 442C (827F)
Total Base Number (TBN) 8.3

No way that pour point is correct, heck, Delo 400 STRAIGHT SAE 50 has a pour point of -6F.!


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: bullwinkle] #4547211
10/18/17 01:13 PM
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Likewise no liquid hydrocarbon is going to have a flashpoint that high either. Wood is about 300 degrees C.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547228
10/18/17 01:32 PM
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Aren't they a subsidy of Shaeffer's? I always was under the impression they might be because the oil is green just like Shaeffer's stuff. There was a guy who religiously brought in Convoy for his Duramax and all other farm vehicles when I worked at the oil shop. I always thought it was funny how it changed back to an amber brown once the vehicle was started and checked the level.


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Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547251
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Motul 300v Double Ester is also green. That is definitely not a sub of Schaeffer's


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MC 820s
TCW3

2010 Corolla 1.8L
MileSyn blend 5w20
Toyota OEM
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2014 CFMoto 650NK
Rotella T6 5w40
CFMoto OEM
Stabil
Re: Conklin Products? [Re: 2012AccentSE] #4547295
10/18/17 02:46 PM
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From reading these posts, it dawned on me that people have a natural tendency to hate products that are exclusive by taking some effort to find---and expensive. I imagine the most hated guy on the planet would be the guy that's both a Conklin dealer and a Cornwell dealer. grin2

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