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Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. #4545891
10/17/17 06:42 AM
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lawnguy Offline OP
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I have a snapper 21" self propelled mower. It has the Briggs 190cc engine. After of about 1 year of using it,for the past couple of months it is having a hard time starting. It used to start on the first pull every time,whether if the engine was hot or cold. It now takes approx 3 -7 pulls before it will start. It's usually around 4-5 hard pulls to typically start.

I have done all the required maint.,so If anyone can share some wisdom regarding this issue please advise.

Thanks!

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545895
10/17/17 06:48 AM
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The carburetor is likely gummed up and needs a cleaning. If you do a youtube search for Briggs 5hp Carburetor cleaning there has to be a how-to video somewhere showing how to take it apart and clean it.

Or, you could look up the engine numbers and search on ebay for a new carb.

I assume once it finally starts it runs okay?


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545904
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Yes, Once it starts it runs strong.

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545926
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Agreed. Carb problem. Likely the jet needs cleaning.

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545945
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I agree it may be a carb problem, BUT, if it runs fine after starting, I don't think it is the jets. I would think it is the cold start enrichment system. does it have an automatic choke, or a primer bulb?


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545948
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On my Briggs power washer it was a dog tring to get it started. Come to find out it had a little too much oil.

Starts on the third pull. Before I had to use starting fluid.


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: old1] #4545971
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Originally Posted By: old1
I agree it may be a carb problem, BUT, if it runs fine after starting, I don't think it is the jets. I would think it is the cold start enrichment system. does it have an automatic choke, or a primer bulb?


It's auto choke. I was thinking about running seafoam through it a few times. Thoughts?

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4545992
10/17/17 08:13 AM
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Save yourself some grief. Buy a Honda-powered mower and forget the Snapper. Briggs engine = starting problems

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4546005
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Here are some how to videos.

https://www.google.com/search?q=briggs+and+stratton+190cc+carburetor+cleaning&oq=briggs+190cc+carborator+cl&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.18464j0j7&client=ms-android-uscellular-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#scso=uid_WeYNNwACrwYKg-vDTwdqGQ_2:1


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: old1] #4546106
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Originally Posted By: old1
I agree it may be a carb problem, BUT, if it runs fine after starting, I don't think it is the jets. I would think it is the cold start enrichment system. does it have an automatic choke, or a primer bulb?


Good point. It's probably something to do with the enrichening circuit. Auto choke might be malfunctioning.

I've got an 8 h.p. B&S engine on my log splitter that's difficult to start if left for long term storage. I pretty much have to pull the plug & give it a few drops of gas into the cylinder to get it to fire. Once running, I can shut it of and refire it with one pull. I should probably check the choke linkage.

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4546119
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I had the same problem on my 190cc B&S. It turned out that a spring on the auto choke mechanism had disconnected. Reconnected it (and gave the linkage a good cleaning!) Problem solved.


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4546147
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Originally Posted By: lawnguy
Originally Posted By: old1
I agree it may be a carb problem, BUT, if it runs fine after starting, I don't think it is the jets. I would think it is the cold start enrichment system. does it have an automatic choke, or a primer bulb?


It's auto choke. I was thinking about running seafoam through it a few times. Thoughts?


I have ran the Seafoam through mine and it seems to work. But how old is your gas and do you use a preservative in your gas. Oh I found my Briggs runs a whole lot better on premium gas. This winter drain your fuel tank and save yourself a lot of problems and start with fresh gas next spring.


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4546186
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Post up the engine numbers if you can.

Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: khittner] #4546280
10/17/17 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: khittner
Save yourself some grief. Buy a Honda-powered mower and forget the Snapper. Briggs engine = starting problems


I fix non-starting Hondas with carb problems all the time.


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Re: Briggs 190cc engine starting problems. [Re: lawnguy] #4546995
10/18/17 08:34 AM
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I've got a Commercial snapper 21" with (I presume) the same 190cc "Professional series" Briggs. Like said, they have an auto choke that relies on exhaust heat to release itself. That's where I would look first.

FWIW, mine has started with 1-2 pulls since 2011. My only dislike of this engine is the tiny fuel tank.


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