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Harbor Freight drills.... #4545716
10/16/17 11:38 PM
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daves87rs Offline OP
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I've noticed a few folks who have bought the new branded drills from HF (Bauer, Hercules) and have good things to say about them. I have an older Dewalt, but I want to add another for some jobs around my house (more of a kick around drill, if you will) So I wasn't planning to spend a crazy amount of money either.

My neighbor who works for HF mentioned they hold up quite well. So I was wondering, has anyone tried them-and what are your thoughts about them?


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545738
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Batteries are certainly dirt cheap, otherwise the tools seem a little expensive for what they are. Also, I'd like a company to be willing to stand behind a $100 drill longer than 90 days. The other issue is that so far they have yet to release any of the new tools they promised in the ads.

Its nice to go with a brand that already has an established line and commitment to a single battery platform. You may not need any other tools now, but there's a couple Ryobi tools that have found there way into my garage for various projects over the years.

Another $50 @ everyday prices gets you something that has a little better build quality and warranty, but with black Friday coming up you can get some pretty sweet deals. Best time to buy power tools are black Friday, father's day, and of course clearance deals after the holidays or when stock is getting old (the batteries do have a shelf life after all). Just make sure you compare specs and don't get stuck with a bottom of the barrel model that manufacturers/retails dish out for the holidays.

Depending on use, I'd recommend a combo kit with a drill and impact driver. I now use an impact driver for 90% of what I do - even drilling.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545742
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I would take the power ratings with a grain of salt, but given that most power tools are made in China now.. the HF ones are probably built from the same parts that are sourced by the tons to make anything from Milwaukees to DeWalts to Porter Cables.

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The iphone is made in china and so is the $20 prepaid phone sitting on a rack at the grocery store - factories build to a spec and price point dictated by their customers to cater to a particular market.

Porter cable is owned by Stanley B&D, and now basicly positioned as a competitor to Ryobi and Craftsman. They also now own the craftsman name. Otherwise, Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee are made by Tektronics to obviously different tiers of quality.

I'm sure the drills are just fine for the average homeowner, but like I said - spending a little more can net you more versatility in the long run.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545768
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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545794
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20v Dewalt $99 on Amazon. 2 batteries, charger and case.
20v Herc. $109 before coupons, 1 battery, charger and case

Even with a 25% off coupon, the extra battery has to be worth something. I am assuming you'd have to pay for any sort of warranty beyond the 90 days too. Probably no aftermarket support either.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: HorseThief] #4545850
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Originally Posted By: HorseThief
The iphone is made in china and so is the $20 prepaid phone sitting on a rack at the grocery store - factories build to a spec and price point dictated by their customers to cater to a particular market.

Porter cable is owned by Stanley B&D, and now basicly positioned as a competitor to Ryobi and Craftsman. They also now own the craftsman name. Otherwise, Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee are made by Tektronics to obviously different tiers of quality.

I'm sure the drills are just fine for the average homeowner, but like I said - spending a little more can net you more versatility in the long run.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: dlundblad] #4545898
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
20v Dewalt $99 on Amazon. 2 batteries, charger and case.
20v Herc. $109 before coupons, 1 battery, charger and case

Even with a 25% off coupon, the extra battery has to be worth something. I am assuming you'd have to pay for any sort of warranty beyond the 90 days too. Probably no aftermarket support either.


The Dewalt looks like a better choice, especially with the battery.

Check out ebay. I have had great luck recently buying used or refurbished power tools for CHEAP. A refurb'ed used name brand drill should work fine for a kick around drill.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545911
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Rigid still does the lifetime battery replacement, so I'd just get one of those again if my drill died. I got upgraded to Li-ion batteries and a new charger when the old Ni-MH ones started to fail. Just register for the lifetime service agreement online.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4545938
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Dewalt makes some US-assembled drills.

The tool might be ok but no way I'd trust HF li-ion batteries. The consequences can be severe.

Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: dlundblad] #4545939
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
20v Dewalt $99 on Amazon. 2 batteries, charger and case.
20v Herc. $109 before coupons, 1 battery, charger and case

Even with a 25% off coupon, the extra battery has to be worth something. I am assuming you'd have to pay for any sort of warranty beyond the 90 days too. Probably no aftermarket support either.

Coupons donít apply many things, including Bauer & Hercules, among other things.

OP, consider buying factory refurbished as they are a great value. These guys do the most business CPO Outlets and Iíve had great luck buying Milwaukee M12 tools.


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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: rooflessVW] #4545964
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW


No, no, no, no, noooooo!!!

I've watched that video - the way this guy talks makes me want to drive a gutter spike into both of my ears. His slang is so annoying! WTH is a 'chooch'?

Seriously - it really got to me bad, like I'm still thinking about it a month later at least once a day.

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Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4546015
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In a time long ago, in the HVAC business, we would use about 3 to 4 thousand sheet metal screws every 2 weeks putting together sheet metal ductwork...we used or had 6 extra batteries on the truck and charging and 6 drills of all makes...IN that environment, the cordless drills were worn out in 6 months and the batteries went fast...IN a home environment, H.F. is a good deal. You most likely will not use their cordless drills 10 hours a month....IMHO. But buy upper grade bits and drivers for sure.



Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: HorseThief] #4546040
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Originally Posted By: HorseThief
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW


No, no, no, no, noooooo!!!

I've watched that video - the way this guy talks makes me want to drive a gutter spike into both of my ears. His slang is so annoying! WTH is a 'chooch'?

Seriously - it really got to me bad, like I'm still thinking about it a month later at least once a day.


I remember my first few AvE videos, felt the same way, but he really grows on you. Plus he's a really smart guy with pretty good videos, once you learn his vernacular.

Re: Harbor Freight drills.... [Re: daves87rs] #4546091
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I've got 20V Porter Cable stuff and I haven't broken any of it yet. Gross tool abuse is the norm for me.

Skookum as frig.


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