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When does fuel dilution happen? #4544650
10/16/17 05:41 AM
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Warm engine?
Cold engine?
Certain phases of the moon?

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544675
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I've seen no data but, I think fuel dilution happens at a higher rate with a cold and warming up engine. I suspect this may be the case since UOAs show higher fuel dilution with short trip driving. ED


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544687
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With Hyundai 2.4L GDI engines - as soon as you push the start button smile


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2010 Hyundai Elantra 2.0L 4 cylinder
2007 Kia Sedona 3.8L 6 cylinder
Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: ChrisD46] #4544701
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I think that's how the Honda 1.5t is as well...

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544704
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Manufacturer's poor control of what's going on in their engines. wink


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Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: StevieC] #4544711
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Manufacturer's poor control of what's going on in their engines. wink


Yep the manufacturer's have little control its all gone to government and CAFE. Its time to pull some of this back and take a look at is it really doing us some good or is it just part of the plan to get us out of our cars.

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544715
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I don't understand why the government keeps attacking car manufacturers for emissions when they are virtually clean and when industry accounts for 70% of global emissions and has far less strict standards.


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'06 Santa Fe - 535,000km AMSOIL SS 0w30 / ATF (R.I.P)
Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: StevieC] #4544718
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
I don't understand why the government keeps attacking car manufacturers for emissions when they are virtually clean and when industry accounts for 70% of global emissions and has far less strict standards.



Because the common people don't have the lobbyists that big business has.


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Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544719
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Isn't that the truth! thumbsup


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Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: PimTac] #4544720
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I don't understand why the government keeps attacking car manufacturers for emissions when they are virtually clean and when industry accounts for 70% of global emissions and has far less strict standards.



Because the common people don't have the lobbyists that big business has.


Bingo!


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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Speak2Mountain] #4544750
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Some engines, particularly some direct injection engines, just put more fuel into the oil all the time. But as a general rule, fuel>oil is worst before the engine reaches operating temperature, the mixture leans out, and blow-by goes down because all the engine internals expand.


I like Chevy and Valvoline.

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Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: StevieC] #4544762
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exactly

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: PimTac] #4544767
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Yep

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: Alex_V] #4544779
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DI engines do give better economy but at what price?

Re: When does fuel dilution happen? [Re: PimTac] #4544784
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I don't understand why the government keeps attacking car manufacturers for emissions when they are virtually clean and when industry accounts for 70% of global emissions and has far less strict standards.



Because the common people don't have the lobbyists that big business has.

You nailed it. thumbsup

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