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New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... #4540838
10/12/17 03:27 AM
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Went for a walk with my wife this arv, and came across a new Chinesium SUV that is hitting the Oz market.

LDV T60 Ute, parked in the local Ford/Mitsubishi/KIa/LDV dealer...price was upper end of the Chines market (Great wall and Foton Tunland)...

https://www.motoring.com.au/details-firm-for-ldv-t60-ute-and-d90-suv-109127/

Looking through the windows, looked pretty well equipped...Eaton locking rear end in the lux version.

2.8VM turbodiesel (related to the baby D-Max, but only 110KW).

About $15 grand less than equivalent Colorado, and apparently has the 5 Star safety, and 6 airbags.

USB, 12V, and 220V outlets in the cab.

https://www.motoring.com.au/outback-ready-ldv-t60-off-road-confirmed-for-oz-109133/

Apparently the outback version is on the way too...

Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540840
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Looks like it has some Buick influence up front. I'd wonder how their safety tests are conducted?


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: PimTac] #4540844
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It's to be tested in the Oz/NZ ANCAP tests.

Looks more to me like they were influened by the Ford Ranger...



Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540845
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Not a bad looking truck really.


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540847
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Wonder if the engine is a "snorty-sounding" one like what one finds in Ford Rangers, Mazdas etc these days?


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540893
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Not too many Chinese cars in the UK as yet.

The only ones I know of are the MG branded cars that are made by SAIC. To begin with, these were knock-down kits assembled in the old Longbridge factory (presumably to give them some Made in the UK cred) but I think all of them now come direct from China. Although they are 'cheaper', I wouldn't say they are 'cheap'. I would buy one except for the fact that (a) the range is one the big side for me and (b) they tend to be on the thirsty side. China doesn't seem to have figured out small & economical yet (like Suzuki for example).

Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540899
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The Chinese are the world's biggest copycats......haven't invented anything since gunpowder....


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540913
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I see "UNITED STATES" written on the side of the off-road version, is LDV coming here?


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: pbm] #4540917
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Originally Posted By: pbm
The Chinese are the world's biggest copycats......haven't invented anything since gunpowder....


They are really proficient at taking someone else's product, reverse engineering it using lower quality components and calling the result their own. Replication instead of innovation.



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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540924
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Didn't all of your domestic auto plants close recently in Oz? If so, was it because of a tariff reduction?


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540955
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Were these trucks self certified or sent to someone for crash testing etc.


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: dlundblad] #4540977
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Not a bad looking truck really.


I agree.


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4540991
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Australia / New Zeland are just too close to Asia for domestic manufacturing to survive without export sales, which just never happened. Even the Pontiac GTO (rebadged Holden) didn't sell in the US (not available in Canada, Mexico), and it was a relatively inexpensive high performance vehicle.

Throw in the Financial Crisis and it just adds up to non-viable. Note that no matter what period in history, and no matter which nation, a financial crisis leads to automotive factory shut-downs and automotive factory clustering around the core manufacturing area, since those can survive. Every time.


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Shannow] #4541001
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If it came here with a manual, I'd buy it ...


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Re: New Chinesium SUV hits Oz.... [Re: Miller88] #4541020
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
If it came here with a manual, I'd buy it ...


Keeping with your sig line? crazy

There's just too many other good choices before buying a Chinese auto. IMHO of course.


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