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Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford #4540547
10/11/17 07:18 PM
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Hi All,

This was meant as a checkup as my 3.7L 2012 F-150 as it heads into middle-age at 62,000 miles. Motorcraft filter. Nothing but Ford Quicklane service since new. I let it run down to the 7% range again as another check on the IOLM---normally I would probably do this in the mid-teens. 9.2K miles, 7% IOLM. Enjoy.

Aluminum 6
Chromium 0
Iron 15
Copper 27
Lead 0
Tin 1
Moly 16
Nickel 0
Manganese 3
Silver 0
Titanium 1
Potassium 3
Boron 51
Silicon 21
Sodium 7
Calcium 2114
Magnesium 9
Phosphorous 636
Zinc 712
Barium 11

SUS Viscosity @ 210 52.8
CSt Viscosity @ 100Centigrade 8.12
Flashpoint 400 degrees
Fuel < 0.5
Antifreeze 0.00%
Water % 0.00
Insolubles 0.2
TBN 2.5
TAN 5.9

Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540565
10/11/17 07:36 PM
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Iron 15 that would make me nervous. I would feel a lot more warm and fuzzy if that number were down around 10.

Silicon 21 is also a bit high.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/11/17 07:37 PM.

2004 Corolla 129987
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540567
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Oil should’ve been dumped way before. Never let TAN to go over TBN

Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540568
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I'm wondering about that silicon number. Are you driving in dusty conditions? Make sure your air intake is buttoned up tight.


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Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: PimTac] #4540585
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I'm wondering about that silicon number. Are you driving in dusty conditions? Make sure your air intake is buttoned up tight.


Or when was the last time the Air intake filter was changed?


2004 Corolla 129987
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540593
10/11/17 08:05 PM
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My Mazda CX9 (2012) has the 3.7L. Blackstone Universal Average for Iron is 14...fyi.


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2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540598
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Yeah, there's a few things that stand out here. Iron is a bit high, TAN value more than double TBN, and silicone is high. That 1 ppm tin isn't doing any harm, but I'm curious where that came from. I would check/replace air filter and personally, I would stay around 5-6k mile OCI on this oil. Again, that's where I would feel comfortable but I'm sure someone will question me questioning the iOLM.

Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540600
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I should have taken the trouble to learn how to post the whole pdf

on an average for this kind of vehicle it's 22 ppm iron, as compared to my 15 ppm. Unit averages for silicon are 34 compared to my 21. (anyway, if the silicon is high I blame it on the OAFOD, not my ham-fisted installation.)

TBN is supposed to be greater than 1. so 2.5 is very good, right? Something of a mystery to me as to how the TBN stayed up so high for so long.

Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: mbacfp] #4540601
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Originally Posted By: mbacfp
My Mazda CX9 (2012) has the 3.7L. Blackstone Universal Average for Iron is 14...fyi.

Out of curiosity, what's the average miles they base that off of?

Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540618
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I got these from another member on here as I did my UOA through NAPA. I honestly don't remember, I just wrote down the Universal Averages...makes them kinda of pointless for the OP. Will try to track down again.


2014 F-550 PSD..........M1 Delvac ESP 5w-40 + OEM
2018 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540622
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Makes since Jimbrewer...mine is a SUV not a f150...must have different averages.


2014 F-550 PSD..........M1 Delvac ESP 5w-40 + OEM
2018 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540626
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I can't tell what the unit average on this. Is there a place I should look? Remember, I took it to 9,200 miles. What is it for the Mazda?

Remember, TAN and TBN are an arbitrary scale devised by the lab. This was Blackstone.

Last edited by jimbrewer; 10/11/17 08:28 PM.
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540636
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I just did a UOA on my Mazda at 9 months 4,900 miles. I got averages from another blackstone UOA on another Mazda CX9. Trying to locate what mileage those averages are based on...but not finding it. Want to say it was 5,500 but honestly don't remember...getting old.


2014 F-550 PSD..........M1 Delvac ESP 5w-40 + OEM
2018 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540640
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Usually Blackstone will tell you averages are based on an average mileage on the first UOA report.


2014 F-550 PSD..........M1 Delvac ESP 5w-40 + OEM
2018 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
2003 Dodge Durango R/T 4x4 5.9L V8
Re: Motorcraft 5-20 9.2K, 7% IOLM 3.7L Ford [Re: jimbrewer] #4540645
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Meh...nothing in this UOA that would have me concerned. Just because the TAN exceeded the TBN does not mean the engine will fail tomorrow nor does it mean that excessive wear has occurred. Silicon is a little high, but that could mean a leak or the air filter has a small hole. I would check and change it as soon as feasible and use some air filter grease for a better seal. No fuel dilution to speak of, insolubles are low, and viscosity is still within range. I would say you made a good run and received for value for the price.


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