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How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? #4540485
10/11/17 06:20 PM
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Should I be concerned? Seems like something a used car salesman would do, not Walmart Express lube.

Last edited by Vern_in_IL; 10/11/17 06:21 PM.
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540494
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I doubt the oil change monkeys at Walmart care about increasing profits for the worlds largest corporation. They might have installed the wrong filter by mistake or it was out of stock so they substituted something else.


17 Chrysler Pacifica Mobil 1 5W30
13 Yamaha XT250 Valv MC 10W40
12 Suzuki S40 Rotella 15W40
10 Acura TSX 2.4 PZL Plat 5W30
06 GMC Sierra Nextgen 10W30


Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: bubbatime] #4540514
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Originally Posted By: bubbatime
I doubt the oil change monkeys at Walmart care about increasing profits for the worlds largest corporation. They might have installed the wrong filter by mistake or it was out of stock so they substituted something else.


I'm sure that was necessary...


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD: Mobil Super Synthetic 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540520
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I think you'd have a bigger chance of them not changing it. I'm guessing if they replace it, they'll get it right. Either way I would always check to make sure I got what I paid for, you know most people won't and that's what they're banking on if they do it.


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Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540525
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If Walmart Express Lube already uses the cheapest oil filter on the planet (SuperTech filter), then what could they switch it to that would be worse? They don't sell or handle Purolators at least (the worst).
Are you talking about switching to an undersize oil filter that still screws on? That has happened.

Last edited by oil_film_movies; 10/11/17 06:55 PM.
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540537
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Oh there are cheaper and worse filters than Supertech. smile

Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540542
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You get a basic economy filter just like at any quick lube. I usually take a sharpie and date mine so if I needed to take it somewhere it's easy to see if it's been changed.

Contrary to many beliefs most of the guys/gals working there are competent enough to change your oil, and I commend them for working and earning a living. Size makes little difference for the length most people go between oil changes. What's most important is the bypass pressure in the filter, especially in the winter.

My wife has two close friends who have owned their cars since new and they both use a quicklube chain for their oil changes. Both cars are at or near 100k and still run like new. Most vehicles on the road today are being serviced by quick lubes and lasting a very long time.


2008 Silverado Z71 LT 90k Maxlife FS 5w30
2010 Ford Escape 172k QSUD 5w20
2016 Yamaha XSR900 12k, Rotella 15w40 Yamaha Filter.
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540546
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Hey Vern:
Do you mean cross referencing a filter?
That would open the installer up to a heap of liability if there were a problem.
As someone in "the business" it's something I never do.
I doubt it's a serious problem.
Have you experienced an issue with "Filter Switching"?
Tell me where the bad installer touched you, Vern.

Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540573
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Walmart TLE has never given me pause when I've gone there for service. Too many corporate lawyers keeping them on their toes.

However, I almost universally distrust franchise chains, or regional companies that provide preventative auto maint.


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4qt Imeditsu 0w-20, 1/2qt Mobil SS 5w-20 Fram HM

2003 Buick Century 107k
4.5q Havoline 5w-30 HM Fram XG
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540575
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What do you mean by "filter switching"? Using a non spec oil filter?

Quick lubes and some indies do consolidate/downsize many oil filter applications now as SOP. Not really switching, just using the application called for based on the filters QLs have and use.

While not my favorite practice if filter is downsized from vehicle spec, in a regularly maintained (oil and filter change} engine likely not a big deal.

Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540578
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Many express lube shops will cross reference as many filters as possible so they don't have to carry as much inventory.

My sonata was purchased used from a Ford Dealer, and they used a valvoline filter that was shorter than OEM for sure.


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'11 Scion XB
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540590
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If you want it done right...

Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: wemay] #4540594
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
I doubt the oil change monkeys at Walmart care about increasing profits for the worlds largest corporation. They might have installed the wrong filter by mistake or it was out of stock so they substituted something else.


I'm sure that was necessary...


Verses what? The shade tree mechanics on BITOG? Gotta love the attitude against those who perform services on behalf of those who for whatever reasons do not want to do it themselves......

Last edited by CKN; 10/11/17 08:13 PM.
Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540667
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What the heck is "filter switching"? Isn't that part of an oil change?

Re: How serious is "Filter Switching" in the business? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4540699
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Yeah, I this was going to be about the wrong filter in the box. Like a regular Fram filter in a Fram Ultra box. That's also filter switching...

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