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Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? #4540167
10/11/17 12:37 PM
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Dumc87 Offline OP
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With a bunch of us scoring QSUD in various grades, I thought it pertinent to look up any recent reviews of the oil.

Most of the recent threads/posts I see with any kind of analysis dates back to 2013, often referencing the old clear bottles.

For the clearance price + rebates, I do not doubt the bargain, I am just curious as to how much of a bargain this oil is.

The old reviews consider it one of the best "sleeper" oils. Has a low NOACK number (still not totally sure what that means) and the rest of the numbers seem on par for comparable oils.


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540207
10/11/17 01:11 PM
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I would like to see a QSUD 0W20 uoa.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540211
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I've got this QSUD 5w-30 in my Toyota Corolla. I put it in early for my normal winter October OCI. At 421 miles I noticed a drop on the stick. My Corolla is a very low oil user. So I check my PCV and it was really bad. I replaced it and topped my oil back out. Its been nearly 1600 miles since then and I have no noticeable oil drop since then. The 421 mile drop had been 4 Oz. That to 6 ounces would be my whole drop for a normal OCI. We'll see what happens.

I normally don't do UOA because of the cost. But I'm going to check this one just to see how this one works out for me. That should be around the last of April to the first part of May. I'll post the results when I get them.

I'm still waiting on my QSUD rebate. Its nearing two months now.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/11/17 01:17 PM.

2004 Corolla 125425
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4540214
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Hi Johnny,

Did you replace the pcv valve with an oem unit or something else? I need to replace the one in the Matrix.

Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: SatinSilver] #4540220
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Hi Johnny,

Did you replace the pcv valve with an oem unit or something else? I need to replace the one in the Matrix.


Yes I got an OEM replacement. It was a piece of cake to do and I know I don't have your mechanical skill.

The oil has finally turned enough that I can read the dip stick but its just a light honey color now.


2004 Corolla 125425
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540225
10/11/17 01:26 PM
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I just go by engine feel, fuel mileage and power production. Seems to do well on all points. I use it interchangeably with Magnatec as two great "synthetic" oils for a discount price.

I will say the best winter oil I've used was Motul EcoNergy 5w30 A1,B1 B5 about 12 years ago. Back then the KV100 was a marginal 20 grade. 5 below F, car started and ran like it never even knew it was cold.
Nine quid a Litre, though.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4540227
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I've got this QSUD 5w-30 in my Toyota Corolla. I put it in early for my normal winter October OCI. At 421 miles I noticed a drop on the stick. My Corolla is a very low oil user. So I check my PCV and it was really bad. I replaced it and topped my oil back out. Its been nearly 1600 miles since then and I have no noticeable oil drop since then. The 421 mile drop had been 4 Oz. That to 6 ounces would be my whole drop for a normal OCI. We'll see what happens.

I normally don't do UOA because of the cost. But I'm going to check this one just to see how this one works out for me. That should be around the last of April to the first part of May. I'll post the results when I get them.

I'm still waiting on my QSUD rebate. Its nearing two months now.


I'm sure several of the recently submitted QSUD rebates will be delayed to the overwhelming volume.

Alls well though, either way the oil was a bargain!

Good to hear it's holding up well, I plan on using the 0w20 and 5w30 QSUD in the Matrix. The Defy and 10w30 QSUD will go into the Z and G20


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540228
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Send in a sample if you gotta know.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4540234
10/11/17 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I've got this QSUD 5w-30 in my Toyota Corolla. I put it in early for my normal winter October OCI. At 421 miles I noticed a drop on the stick. My Corolla is a very low oil user. So I check my PCV and it was really bad. I replaced it and topped my oil back out. Its been nearly 1600 miles since then and I have no noticeable oil drop since then. The 421 mile drop had been 4 Oz. That to 6 ounces would be my whole drop for a normal OCI. We'll see what happens.

I normally don't do UOA because of the cost. But I'm going to check this one just to see how this one works out for me. That should be around the last of April to the first part of May. I'll post the results when I get them.

I'm still waiting on my QSUD rebate. Its nearing two months now.


I was pleasantly surprised when my Quaker State rebate showed up in only 4-5 days! laugh


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540237
10/11/17 01:35 PM
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Dumc87 your Matrix has the same engine as my Corolla. It's been a very good engine for me. The engine seems very quite and smooth on this 5w-30. In the spring I'll change back to my summer oil I usually run a 10w-30 from May to October.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/11/17 01:43 PM.

2004 Corolla 125425
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4540243
10/11/17 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I was pleasantly surprised when my Quaker State rebate showed up in only 4-5 days! laugh


Well that has me wondering I've always found these rebates to be iffy sometimes you get them and sometimes you don't. With information technology what it is today there is no reason for that other than they've engineered it into the system in my opinion having worked in IT for 29 and half years.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/11/17 01:40 PM.

2004 Corolla 125425
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4540248
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Dumc87 your Matrix has the same engine as my Corolla. It's been a very good engine for me. The engine seems very quite and smooth on this 5w-30. In the spring I'll change back to my summer oil I usually run a 10w-30.


Our engines are similar, but I believe you have the 1ZZ-FE whereas I have the 2ZR-FE; regardless, the oil experience should be near identical laugh


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: Dumc87] #4540250
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Maybe Shell being right down the road from me is why I got it so fast too. I got my Pennzoil rebates within a week also laugh


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4540252
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Maybe Shell being right down the road from me is why I got it so fast too. I got my Pennzoil rebates with a week also laugh


Now you're just rubbing it in! lol


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recent (2017) QSUD UOA/VOA? [Re: SatinSilver] #4540264
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Hi Johnny,

Did you replace the pcv valve with an oem unit or something else? I need to replace the one in the Matrix.


If you have the 1ZZFE (1.8L) be advised that the Japan made vehicle and the North American made vehicle take different PCV valves.....ask me how I know....


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