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Recommended oil weights around the world. #4540072
10/11/17 10:12 AM
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mightymousetech Offline OP
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Since we have a world wide audience here, I thought I would ask what kind of oil weights the same cars use around the world.

Here in North America, cars like the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla spec a 0W20.

What does the manufacturer recommend for these cars in places like England, EU, Asia, South America, AUS etc etc?

Just for a data point, my 2010 Civic Si calls for a 5W30 here in NA, but I believe in the most of the rest of the world a 5W40 is recommended.


Last edited by mightymousetech; 10/11/17 10:12 AM.

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Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540113
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I'd bet the oil specs outside of the US are 5w30 and higher.

Maybe in Japan the 0w20 is common?

Last edited by Dumc87; 10/11/17 10:46 AM.

'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540120
10/11/17 10:51 AM
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Australians on here use 15w40 commonly. On the same? engines we spec for 0w20,5w30 in US. Hmmm..


06 Escalade 6.0L LQ9 AWD 165k M1 5w30
03 Maxima 3.5L POS 152k ST HM 10w30
Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540121
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The 2018 Camry I4 I looked at last week used 0W-16. I haven't seen that oil on the shelves yet.

Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540126
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count me interested as i had seen info in the past on heavier oil specd in other countries. as long as it lasts during the warranty US sellers care less as they enjoy the 1/4 mpg gained to meet the mpg quotas!!

Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540136
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Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.


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Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: Yah-Tah-Hey] #4540153
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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
The 2018 Camry I4 I looked at last week used 0W-16. I haven't seen that oil on the shelves yet.

That's interesting. The new GF-6 oils are not supposed to be out until April

Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540164
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Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: kschachn] #4540175
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.



I think the engineers realize these engines will see anything from frozen tundra in Canada to scorching desert in the Australian outback.

I've venture to guess that, for the most part, these engines were designed to run on anything. The variables come into performance increases like turbos, driving style both on and off the highway, oil technology advancing sporadically. So I think that, for the most part, any modern engine can run on any of the approved oils.

I'm sure 0w20 nets better fuel economy and 15w50 protects the most, so in between it's about finding a balance that suits the owner; in particular, the owner's placebo as to what is best. laugh


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: mightymousetech] #4540183
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Here in North America, cars like the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla spec a 0W20.

A family member in Europe drives a 2015 Civic 1.8. Both Castrol Europe as well as Mobil Europe seem to be recommending their 0w-30 oils for it. I'm not sure what the actual owner's manual states.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: Dumc87] #4540187
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.



I think the engineers realize these engines will see anything from frozen tundra in Canada to scorching desert in the Australian outback.

I've venture to guess that, for the most part, these engines were designed to run on anything. The variables come into performance increases like turbos, driving style both on and off the highway, oil technology advancing sporadically. So I think that, for the most part, any modern engine can run on any of the approved oils.

I'm sure 0w20 nets better fuel economy and 15w50 protects the most, so in between it's about finding a balance that suits the owner; in particular, the owner's placebo as to what is best. laugh


They need to come up with a new grade:

0-15w-20-50 smile

Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: kschachn] #4540194
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.


+1

Always cracks me up when someone is asking about a thicker oil that still meets 5W30.


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Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: bigj_16] #4540202
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.



I think the engineers realize these engines will see anything from frozen tundra in Canada to scorching desert in the Australian outback.

I've venture to guess that, for the most part, these engines were designed to run on anything. The variables come into performance increases like turbos, driving style both on and off the highway, oil technology advancing sporadically. So I think that, for the most part, any modern engine can run on any of the approved oils.

I'm sure 0w20 nets better fuel economy and 15w50 protects the most, so in between it's about finding a balance that suits the owner; in particular, the owner's placebo as to what is best. laugh


They need to come up with a new grade:

0-15w-20-50 smile


It'd have to be made out of unicorn blood-base stock, obviously laugh


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: Dumc87] #4540210
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: Dumc87
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Rather than some nefarious conspiracy theory, what it tells me is that the engines will operate on a range of grades and overall it isn't significant.



I think the engineers realize these engines will see anything from frozen tundra in Canada to scorching desert in the Australian outback.

I've venture to guess that, for the most part, these engines were designed to run on anything. The variables come into performance increases like turbos, driving style both on and off the highway, oil technology advancing sporadically. So I think that, for the most part, any modern engine can run on any of the approved oils.

I'm sure 0w20 nets better fuel economy and 15w50 protects the most, so in between it's about finding a balance that suits the owner; in particular, the owner's placebo as to what is best. laugh


They need to come up with a new grade:

0-15w-20-50 smile


It'd have to be made out of unicorn blood-base stock, obviously laugh


Synthetic unicorn blood-base stock, of course. No more blood for oil smile

Re: Recommended oil weights around the world. [Re: Dumc87] #4540222
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87
I'd bet the oil specs outside of the US are 5w30 and higher.

Maybe in Japan the 0w20 is common?

For Subaru at least, the viscosity recommended by Subaru Japan is based on the driving conditions and allows up to 5W40 in the BRZ which specs 0W20 here. They allow up to 10W50 in the STI which specs 5W30 here.


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