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#4539570 - 10/10/17 08:35 PM App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps
Jimmy9190 Offline


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This looks like it could be a very useful tool, if it really works. I always buy gas with a dedicated low-limit credit card or gas gift card but I may try the app myself, there are a lot of complaints of skimmers around here.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/se...s-at-gas-pumps/

The developer has made it available on the Google Play store, so maybe it really is legit.
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#4539610 - 10/10/17 09:05 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
loneryder Offline


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Interesting because my girlfriends cc card was just stolen. She made a small purchase at Walmart and someone made a large purchase in Missouri the same time. Bank caught it and shut it down. Never realized gas pumps were so infected. When you think about it, no one pays any attention to those pumps in the large self service stations. They just take readings of the gallons pumped and may not have to go outside for that.
I may try that app.

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#4539625 - 10/10/17 09:21 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
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The article also says that users can also use their Bluetooth on their phone and scan for something called HC-05. If that comes up then it's likely a slimmer device is nearby.

Handy to know. No need to get the app.
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#4539646 - 10/10/17 09:46 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
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I'm wondering when the first smart card (aka "chip card") systems will be used for POS terminals like pay at the pump. They're already used at self-checkout at stores. They're pretty much immune to skimming. I think a description would be that they receive a "token" that gets fed through an algorithm on the chip inside the card, and there's a unique response. With a different token sent for each transaction, there's nothing that can be used to reverse-engineer the algorithm just by monitoring the entire transaction.

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#4539651 - 10/10/17 09:51 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
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Are you responsible for the charges if your card is skimmed?
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#4539670 - 10/10/17 10:17 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: y_p_w]
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Originally Posted By: y_p_w
I'm wondering when the first smart card (aka "chip card") systems will be used for POS terminals like pay at the pump. They're already used at self-checkout at stores. They're pretty much immune to skimming. I think a description would be that they receive a "token" that gets fed through an algorithm on the chip inside the card, and there's a unique response. With a different token sent for each transaction, there's nothing that can be used to reverse-engineer the algorithm just by monitoring the entire transaction.


The original deadline was now, October 2017, but it has been pushed back to 2020.

Getting the pumps compliant was more complicated, and costlier than planned.

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#4539674 - 10/10/17 10:19 PM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: StevieC]
SirTanon Offline


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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Are you responsible for the charges if your card is skimmed?


For virtually every credit card out there, no.. debit cards, however, are a different story. This is one major reason I've switched to ONLY using a dedicated credit card with a $500 limit to buy gas for my car.
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#4539681 - 10/10/17 10:31 PM app lets users detect card skimmers at pump
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#4539751 - 10/11/17 01:32 AM Re: app lets users detect card skimmers at pump [Re: daves66nova]
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#4539759 - 10/11/17 02:06 AM Re: app lets users detect card skimmers at pump [Re: daves66nova]
PimTac Offline


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You are probably not aware there is another thread here on the same subject.


https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4539570/App_to_scan_for_card_skimmers_
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#4539811 - 10/11/17 06:18 AM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
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Registered: 12/14/09
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I've been nailed twice by skimmers in the last year. There was a 2-3 months stretch where lots people in my area were getting skimmed. Its been a big problem at a few gas stations near my office but they believe they caught the person responsible. The first time I noticed was when my card declined just a few hours after getting gas, then the second time my bank called and asked if I was making purchases out of town. This is on my debit card, and the bank didn't hold me responsible for any of it. Now I only keep $100 in the account it is associated with, and if I need more I move the exact amount I need into the account right before the purchase.
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#4539837 - 10/11/17 07:10 AM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
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I have only seen one gas pump so far that you push your card into and leave it there. I figured it must have a chip reader.
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#4539895 - 10/11/17 08:07 AM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: Jimmy9190]
gathermewool Offline


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Are these skimmers obvious? I’ve seen a few slots that seemed abnormally large, so I gave them a bit of a jiggle to see if they’d come loose before sliding my card in.

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#4539955 - 10/11/17 09:13 AM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: SirTanon]
StevieC Offline


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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Are you responsible for the charges if your card is skimmed?


For virtually every credit card out there, no.. debit cards, however, are a different story. This is one major reason I've switched to ONLY using a dedicated credit card with a $500 limit to buy gas for my car.


Wow we have 0 credit card liability in Canada. That's terrible you are on the hook. frown

I just recently had my card compromised and I called the company, they canceled the card, sent me a new one and reversed the charges. All I had to do was give them a verbal (this isn't mine) and that's it. Funny thing is it was my Amazon Visa card from Chase Bank (Canada)


Edited by StevieC (10/11/17 09:15 AM)
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#4540035 - 10/11/17 10:34 AM Re: App to scan for card skimmers at gas pumps [Re: gathermewool]
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Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Are these skimmers obvious? I’ve seen a few slots that seemed abnormally large, so I gave them a bit of a jiggle to see if they’d come loose before sliding my card in.

No. Some are internal, using the real credit card reader that makes the purchase, but has a piggy-back plugged in that saves the info to be retrieved later.
That is why scanning for Bluetooth can detect it, that is how they get the data off of it.
The older ones were external and could be spotted pretty easily, if you looked for it (which most people don't).
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