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One oil to do them all! #4539184
10/10/17 02:35 PM
10/10/17 02:35 PM
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BC, Canada
Yuro Offline OP
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Hey fellas,

After some reading the general concessus seems to be that most oil manufacturered today is a quality product. I am looking to simplify my oil changing needs and wondering if I can use one to do all my vehicles.

Vehicle 1: BMW E70 X5 35d m57 sequential turbo 3.0L diesel with all deletes (no dpf). 50/50 highway city. 112k kms.

Vehicle 2: BMW E71 X6 n54 twin turbo 3.0L gas. 40 / 60 highways city. 80k kms.

Vehicle 3: 2002 VW Jetta TDI Alh single turbo diesel with deletes. 175k kms. Mostly highway.

Vehicle 4: 97 FLSTS Harley Davidson Springer, 1340cc vtwin gas. 9k kms.


Was thinking about just buying a 19L jug of Rotella T6 and running it on everything.

Any objections? Is this a stupid idea? Currently everything has its own oil. I can go into what if needed.

Cheers,
Sean

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539206
10/10/17 02:54 PM
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What oil is specified for each would be helpful. As a SWAG, agree you could likely go with T6 in everything without worry.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539208
10/10/17 02:58 PM
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There is always that Red line 10W-60 smile

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539248
10/10/17 03:32 PM
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Isn't T6 only 5w-40? I would be a little concerned with that in the Harley.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539554
10/10/17 08:21 PM
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The T5 10w-30 or another dual rated HDEO


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539737
10/11/17 12:19 AM
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You're goinna hate T6 in the Harley ... It'll sound like a bucket of marbles. Not thick enough at start-up or at op temp. Plus, it's still somewhat susceptible to drain-off when sitting for long periods.

If the cars don't sit to much (?), they will be OK. I run T6 in a lot of stuff and it works OK.

Are you likely to try to extend your drain interval to more than 10K miles?


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539754
10/11/17 01:40 AM
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Yuro Offline OP
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X5 is recommended to use a 5W30 meeting BMW LL-04 standards. Its currently running Castrol Professional OE 5w30

X6 is recommended to use a 5W30 meeting BMW LL-01 standards. Not sure what its currently running as its newish to us.

Jetta is recommended to use an oil meeting VW 505.00 standards. Its currently running Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40

Harley is recommended to use a HD 20w50. Its currently running Redline V-Twin 20W50.

I am totally fine with the Harley sticking to heavy weights and buying separately. The Rotella T6 seems popular among Motorcyclists, but probably more engineered machines. The Evo already sounds like a bucket of marbles with the Redline 20w50. Machined to "perfec... eeh close enough whatever". Part of its charm I suppose.

Was aiming at the T6 0w40 also. I live in Canada so its below 0c for the winters. 10k - 15k KMs change intervals (under 10,000 miles). Depending when I see oil on sale. Thanks for the advice so far fellas, much appreciated.

Cheers

Last edited by Yuro; 10/11/17 01:43 AM.
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539770
10/11/17 03:43 AM
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Castrol Edge 0w40 should meet all the cars needs as you don't require the emissions safe oil after deleting it. It has the LL01 and 505 specs. Also has ACEA A3/B4, Porsche A40 and MB 229.5

Depends how cheaply you can get it.


95 MX-3 2.5L|Shell Helix Ultra 5W40|Wix 51356
04 Focus 1.8L|Wesfil Cooper WZ63|Valvoline MST 5W30
05 Kluger 3.3L|Wesfil Cooper WZ418|Magnatec 10W30 Semi Syn
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539898
10/11/17 08:12 AM
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Castrol 0W40 for the cars & stick with what you using for the Harley. What to have a couple single quarts lying around for the Harley is not gonna kill you or the Harley combined with your 5 quart jug or jugs for the cars. I myself run Mobil One V-Twin 20W50 in my Road King Classic in all three holes.

Last edited by thorromig; 10/11/17 08:13 AM.

00 Dodge Ram 5.2L 4x4 Edge 10W30 FU (91K)
08 Acura TL Type S 3.5L PUPP 5W20 FU (101K)
17 Jetta TSI SE 1.4L Turbo - Edge 0W40 FU (Hers) (4K)
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4539917
10/11/17 08:38 AM
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Another vote for Castol 0W40 for everything except the bike.


Mighty Mouse Tech
BMW Tech, Former Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4540092
10/11/17 11:30 AM
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The Redline in the EVO may be contributing to some start-up noise. Fine oil, but may drain-off a bit more than a dino version.

My Harley wants dino oil by the sound of things on cold start. I tried all sorts of stuff. HDEO's, Castrol RS10W-60, and a bunch of others. Ended up with good old GTX 20W-50.

Old school oil for an old school motor. Sounds good on cold start and runs fine. A bit of foam in the oil tank after running hard, but not bad. So I'm OK with that.

Annual changes smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4540797
10/11/17 11:38 PM
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Yuro Offline OP
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Thanks fellas!

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: blupupher] #4540800
10/11/17 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
Isn't T6 only 5w-40? I would be a little concerned with that in the Harley.


Aren't Harley's supposed to take a 60 weight or something ?

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Merkava_4] #4541597
10/12/17 08:52 PM
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Yuro Offline OP
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Yes, we touched on that subject above.

Cheers

Re: One oil to do them all! [Re: Yuro] #4541740
10/12/17 11:31 PM
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Sounds like a bad idea


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