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#4538585 - 10/09/17 10:56 PM PentaStar real world information
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I thought I would share some good information for the Chrysler Pentastar engines from some real world experiences I have had with it.

The first year these engines were introduced I was working for a company that had a fleet of 95 Dodge Caravans. Over the first couple of years that these engines came out the company decided to replace their aging fleet over slowly to newer Dodge Caravans with these engines.

Including the one I bought from the company when I left and gave it to my dad.

These vans were fully loaded weight wise from day one and weren't treated well by the folks driving them. They also saw oil changes when they were convenient and not when the OLM or some set number by the oil change shop said it was due.

When I left 4 years later most of these vans were being traded in with very high mileage on them (300K km's / 180K-ish Miles) Pretty much all of them survived without any catastrophic failures like engines/transmissions (I think we had 2 but we attributed them to the drivers).

Anyway I knew I was going to buy one of them for my dad at trade-in time because he's a mechanic and mine had about 180,000km at that point but had been rust proofed and well looked after by myself. His is still going strong at 300K KM's (180K-ish Miles) and he's actually down in South Carolina with it right now.

I'm throughly impressed with the Pentastar V6, especially with the slight revised ones in these later years and I thought given the sample size I saw and the abuse they took and survived that I would post it here for anyone contemplating this great engine / van type.

Cheers. Cheers2


Edited by StevieC (10/09/17 10:57 PM)
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#4538595 - 10/09/17 11:16 PM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 8736
Loc: Phoenix
They were still running '95 Caravans when they replaced them with Pentastar powered vans? crzy

Off topic rant - I can't believe Chrysler quit using the Pentastar badge on their vehicles. I thought it was a clean, distinctive emblem. Of course being an 80's child I grew up as they plastered it on everything from an Omni to a New Yorker.
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#4538626 - 10/10/17 12:04 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
Superflop Offline


Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 420
Loc: Seattle
Yeah we just traded our volvo for a clean 2014 gc. Nice rig, co.fortabke for the family and plenty of power. Did an oc when we bought it with some magnatec and im doing a trans pan drop and fluid+filter replace. Bought the dorman pan with the drain plug and the chrysler reusable gasket.
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#4538638 - 10/10/17 12:28 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10097
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
They got 16 years out of the last batch and only 5/6 out of these ones?

I like the Pentastars, good power. My grandmother has a 2014 with 32k miles. Unfortunately the oil pan and timing chain cover were leaking so the dealer had to reseal them. Was quite a big job to have done but it's under warranty.
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#4538647 - 10/10/17 01:09 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: Superflop]
Farmer Offline


Registered: 08/05/15
Posts: 1111
Loc: BC Canada
Originally Posted By: Superflop
Yeah we just traded our volvo for a clean 2014 gc. Nice rig, co.fortabke for the family and plenty of power. Did an oc when we bought it with some magnatec and im doing a trans pan drop and fluid+filter replace. Bought the dorman pan with the drain plug and the chrysler reusable gasket.


I don't believe that transmission has a dipstick, just a plug on the filler tube. You're going to have to improvise. I think if you google something like 62TE dipstick something should come up.

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#4538670 - 10/10/17 04:33 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
ATex7239 Offline


Registered: 01/19/17
Posts: 331
Loc: Texas,USA
Fleet vehicles are good examples of what vehicles can endure, given heavy use and only basic maintenance.

We have the option to buy our vehicle after the lease, but I would never buy any fleet vehicle. 1) The lease company usually wants way too much for them. 2) I know what they have been through...

I've seen vehicles go 180,000 without a single fluid changed other than oil. Skipped oil changes altogether. 15,000 miles on conventional oil. Filters not being replaced. And that's just the maintenance, or lack there of, let alone the drivers' abuse.

My signature, regarding the oil/filter in the Ford, is in jest. But it really is true.
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#4538693 - 10/10/17 05:32 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29753
Loc: NY
No cylinder head failures? You read on the www. and some people would lead you to believe everyone of them is destined to fail, and that the problem was never resolved. Everyone I know with a Pentastar powered mini van, GC, Durango, or Wrangler has been very pleased.
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#4538694 - 10/10/17 05:34 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
JC1 Offline


Registered: 11/29/08
Posts: 3002
Loc: Oshawa, Ontario Canada
Thanks StevieC for the write up.

The other advantage for buying these vans is that the wreckers will have all sorts of parts available for when you need them 10-15 years later.
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#4538735 - 10/10/17 06:41 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: dishdude]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: dishdude
They were still running '95 Caravans when they replaced them with Pentastar powered vans? crzy

Off topic rant - I can't believe Chrysler quit using the Pentastar badge on their vehicles. I thought it was a clean, distinctive emblem. Of course being an 80's child I grew up as they plastered it on everything from an Omni to a New Yorker.


No we had a fleet of 95 total mini-vans. They weren't from 1995. Hahahahaha
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#4538738 - 10/10/17 06:43 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: Farmer]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Farmer

I don't believe that transmission has a dipstick, just a plug on the filler tube. You're going to have to improvise. I think if you google something like 62TE dipstick something should come up.


Yeah no dipstick, just a filler tube. I looked up the specs online and you have to fully warm up the transmission and stick something down the tube to measure. The dealers have a special tool. I just made one out of a PVC tube and marked it with a marker. I don't believe in filled for life transmissions. smile
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#4538739 - 10/10/17 06:45 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: demarpaint]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
No cylinder head failures? You read on the www. and some people would lead you to believe everyone of them is destined to fail, and that the problem was never resolved. Everyone I know with a Pentastar powered mini van, GC, Durango, or Wrangler has been very pleased.


We had 2 engine blow up, and one with a transmission as well but we attributed this to the abusive drivers.

The other 93 we hadn't seen any cylinder head problems and my dads is at 300K KM (180K Miles) and still going strong.


Edited by StevieC (10/10/17 06:45 AM)
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#4538741 - 10/10/17 06:46 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: JC1]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: JC1
Thanks StevieC for the write up.

The other advantage for buying these vans is that the wreckers will have all sorts of parts available for when you need them 10-15 years later.


You're welcome... I just thought it was a good sample size to talk about here with some great real world results under not so great conditions. thumbsup
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#4538746 - 10/10/17 06:51 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: StevieC]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29753
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
No cylinder head failures? You read on the www. and some people would lead you to believe everyone of them is destined to fail, and that the problem was never resolved. Everyone I know with a Pentastar powered mini van, GC, Durango, or Wrangler has been very pleased.


We had 2 engine blow up, and one with a transmission as well but we attributed this to the abusive drivers.

The other 93 we hadn't seen any cylinder head problems and my dads is at 300K KM (180K Miles) and still going strong.


Driver abuse is common, very common so there's no surprise there.
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#4538747 - 10/10/17 06:53 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: demarpaint]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 5226
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
I know I can Google this, but...

There was only 1 Pentastar engine? How come nobody mentions the size of their Pentastar engines? (2.6l, 3.0l etc.)

What sizes did they come in and what was their year range?

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#4538754 - 10/10/17 07:00 AM Re: PentaStar real world information [Re: Kira]
Brett776 Offline


Registered: 07/17/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Florida
I think it’s only the 3.6L V6 released in 2011 or so.

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