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#4537993 - 10/09/17 12:55 PM 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
OK so I'm using a full 5w20 synthetic and I'm getting up to 250F (120C) on the highway after about 40 minutes of driving. I have tried a 30wt with little difference so I'm thinking of putting a sandwich style oil cooler setup on to reduce the temperatures. What say you? What brand of cooler would you reccomend for a M22x1.5 application.


Edited by StevieC (10/09/17 12:56 PM)
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#4538002 - 10/09/17 01:00 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
Virtus_Probi Offline


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That is so danged hot that I'm wondering if you have a serious issue to deal with in your engine...
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#4538006 - 10/09/17 01:02 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
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It's not going into the limp mode with the "Hot Oil" message but it isn't what I would like to see it at. My mom has the same model vehicle but 1 year older and hers gets up to the same temperature so it must be normal for them or we both have the same problem. hahahaaha.
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#4538007 - 10/09/17 01:03 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
4WD Offline


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Not sure if there is any correlation
but my new 0w20 spec 5.3L has a factory oil cooler and my old 5w30 spec 5.3L does not

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#4538009 - 10/09/17 01:06 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
StevieC Offline


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If I stay on streets the oil temperature will never make it this high and stay around 95C (203F) but prolonged period on the highway elevate it and keep it there until I exit the highway. I thought initially it was the 20wt and stepped up to a 30wt but this made only a few degrees difference. I checked the coolant sensor in case it was faulty and reading the wrong engine temperature and even the oil temperature sensor and both are within spec as per the technical manuals. That's why I'm thinking oil cooler is the way to go.
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#4538012 - 10/09/17 01:09 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
ZeeOSix Offline


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Loc: PNW
What vehicle is this? Oil temp of 250 F with normal public road driving seems abnormally high, even with no oil cooler.

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#4538020 - 10/09/17 01:10 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
StevieC Offline


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It's a 15 Journey 2.4L 4 Cylinder. Normal roads is normal temperatures. Highway is where the problem exists. smile
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#4538025 - 10/09/17 01:13 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
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My gf's Olds 88 would always climb up to 220F if we were sitting in traffic and idling. But once we got going it'd back down to around 200F. The exact opposite of what you're experiencing.
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#4538033 - 10/09/17 01:16 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
StevieC Offline


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I would be more concerned if my mom's with 1/2 the miles wasn't doing the same thing but hers does as well so I'm just thinking it's just a poor design and it can be remedied with a cooler.
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#4538044 - 10/09/17 01:23 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
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Registered: 12/14/10
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
I would be more concerned if my mom's with 1/2 the miles wasn't doing the same thing but hers does as well so I'm just thinking it's just a poor design designed that way and it can be remedied changed with a cooler.


Fixed. Just because temps are higher that what you are used to or comfortable with does not mean it is a poor design.
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#4538055 - 10/09/17 01:29 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
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Registered: 07/03/17
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From where are you getting this temperature reading?

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#4538064 - 10/09/17 01:37 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
StevieC Offline


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The Journey's are equipped with a driver information center in the center cluster and it tells you things like oil temp, trans temp etc.
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#4538065 - 10/09/17 01:38 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: 09_GXP]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
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Yeah however I'm all about tweaking it somewhere cooler for engine longevity but not too cool that the oil can't do it's job effectively.
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#4538082 - 10/09/17 01:53 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
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250* may not be too hot.
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#4538084 - 10/09/17 01:54 PM Re: 20wt oils, higher temperatures and oil coolers [Re: StevieC]
StevieC Offline


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I should also add because these engines are designed for regular oil and that supposedly starts breaking down at 275F and Synthetic somewhere around 300F if I remember correctly so this is getting pretty darn close. I also don't like the thought of running track type oil temperatures in a daily commuter.

smile
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