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#4537057 - 10/08/17 11:48 AM 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils
advocate Offline


Registered: 01/17/12
Posts: 116
Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Looking through the 2018 F150 owners manuals I see that Ford finally has a chart for outside temperatures and oil recommendations. Before it was just 5w-20 for the non turbo engines and 5w-30 for the Ecoboost line. Its about time they got with the times and recommended 0 winter oils for their gas engines! Anyone using 0w-20 or 0w-30 in their trucks? 5.0, 3.5, 2.7? I'm considering it for my next change on my 2016 5.0 especially with winter around the corner.

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#4537079 - 10/08/17 12:03 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1267
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
Could you post the chart, or an approximation?

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#4537132 - 10/08/17 12:59 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
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Registered: 01/30/07
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Ford's recommending 0W oils ? Time to party! getdown

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#4537136 - 10/08/17 01:00 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
advocate Offline


Registered: 01/17/12
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Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2018 F150 owners manual


Itís in the manual. Starting from page 418 for the specs and capacities of all the engines including the yet to be released 3.0 duratorq diesel engine.

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#4537138 - 10/08/17 01:01 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: Merkava_4]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Ford's recommending 0W oils ? Time to party! getdown


Soon they rescind that and go back to 5w-30 like they did before would be where the smart money is going.
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#4537153 - 10/08/17 01:15 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
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Registered: 12/30/06
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Soon they rescind that and go back to 5w-30 like they did before would be where the smart money is going.


Imagine if Ford came out with a tsb telling people to bump up the viscosity to a 20W50. I bet the BITOG server would have a total meltdown haha laugh
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#4537168 - 10/08/17 01:31 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Soon they rescind that and go back to 5w-30 like they did before would be where the smart money is going.

There's nothing wrong with a 0w-30 in a 5w-30 application, and do note that some 0w-30 options are significantly thicker than some 5w-30 options, particularly the 5w-30 varieties Ford would recommend.
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#4537183 - 10/08/17 01:45 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: aquariuscsm]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
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Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Imagine if Ford came out with a tsb telling people to bump up the viscosity to a 20W50. I bet the BITOG server would have a total meltdown haha laugh


LOL! LOL

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#4537195 - 10/08/17 01:54 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
0wXX

Wahoo!

Er...wait a minute...why is this a good thing? Or a necessary thing?
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#4537197 - 10/08/17 01:55 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
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Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7473
Loc: S California
If I owned one of those EcoBoost Ford pickup engines I'd certainly look carefully at a couple of UOA's. That's a lot of power from some small engines.

I run Red Line 0w-30 in my V8 4Runner that is driven a lot in the desert and tows a horse trailer on some pretty bad roads. The last UOA I posted here is an indication that I've made a good choice both in the vehicle and the oil. I would not run a Xw-20 weight oil in a work vehicle.

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#4537198 - 10/08/17 01:56 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: Garak]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Soon they rescind that and go back to 5w-30 like they did before would be where the smart money is going.

There's nothing wrong with a 0w-30 in a 5w-30 application, and do note that some 0w-30 options are significantly thicker than some 5w-30 options, particularly the 5w-30 varieties Ford would recommend.


Which varieties would Ford recommend?

The problem with your post is your assumption that everyone knows as much about oil as you.

Sadly, 99% of F150 owners would not know which 0w30s are thicker than which 5w30s.

If I were a current F150 owner I would have to include myself on that list.
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#4537203 - 10/08/17 01:58 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: OneEyeJack]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
If I owned one of those EcoBoost Ford pickup engines I'd certainly look carefully at a couple of UOA's. That's a lot of power from some small engines.

I run Red Line 0w-30 in my V8 4Runner that is driven a lot in the desert and tows a horse trailer on some pretty bad roads. The last UOA I posted here is an indication that I've made a good choice both in the vehicle and the oil. I would not run a Xw-20 weight oil in a work vehicle.


OldOneEye,

Is there a reason you need a 0w rather than just a 10w in your temperatures? Are your night time desert temps that chilly?

Thanks
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#4537208 - 10/08/17 02:04 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: ArcticDriver]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Which varieties would Ford recommend?

Ford would recommend an SN/GF-5 5w-30, an ILSAC variety, as they have for many years, of course, with their own little proprietary number, too. Something like GC 0w-30 or Delvac Elite 222 0w-30 has a significantly higher HTHS than any of those 5w-30 varieties.

Within Ford recommendations, though, something like M1 0w-30 AFE and M1 5w-30 would be functionally identical for most users, with similar HTHS.
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#4537211 - 10/08/17 02:07 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: ArcticDriver]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 8861
Loc: Southeast Florida
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Soon they rescind that and go back to 5w-30 like they did before would be where the smart money is going.

There's nothing wrong with a 0w-30 in a 5w-30 application, and do note that some 0w-30 options are significantly thicker than some 5w-30 options, particularly the 5w-30 varieties Ford would recommend.


Which varieties would Ford recommend?

The problem with your post is your assumption that everyone knows as much about oil as you.

Sadly, 99% of F150 owners would not know which 0w30s are thicker than which 5w30s.

If I were a current F150 owner I would have to include myself on that list.


I think your missing Garak's point. The difference between 0w30 and 5w30 is insignificant at above zero temps, with some 0w30 being slightly thicker, but still in the 30 range. The average consumer wouldn't need to discern between the two or know as much about oil as he does. wink
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#4537216 - 10/08/17 02:11 PM Re: 2018 Ford F150 finally recommending 0w oils [Re: advocate]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1267
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
What is kind of interesting is that the 0W-30 Motorcraft oil is a different spec(WSS-M2C953-A1) than the 5W-30 oil. However, Mobil 1 claims their 0W-30 AFE meets the 946 standard of Ford's 5W-30.

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