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10-30 voa from PQIA #4537045
10/08/17 10:41 AM
10/08/17 10:41 AM
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Posts: 370
Texas
Neely97 Offline OP
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6.7 cummins, Toyota 4 runner
FUMOTO
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537060
10/08/17 10:51 AM
10/08/17 10:51 AM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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That's some good liquid sand, 213 Si?? Would make good lapping compound!


06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 18 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537082
10/08/17 11:06 AM
10/08/17 11:06 AM
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texas
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texas
It probably was $10/qt too. smile

Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537095
10/08/17 11:19 AM
10/08/17 11:19 AM
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Wet side WA
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I wouldn't use that stuff in my mower.


2004 Corolla 126884
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537100
10/08/17 11:22 AM
10/08/17 11:22 AM
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Douglas County, Colorado
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It is almost as if they deliberately kept anything good out, and added everything bad. There are a few oils like this on PQIA's site. The only thing I can think of, is that they are using used oil, filtering it to make it look good, maybe adding a little low quality new oil, and bottling it.

Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537166
10/08/17 12:29 PM
10/08/17 12:29 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Seems to me that they are deliberatly making this junk. Or scraping the bottom of the used oil tank at the local auto parts store. The oil in that tank is likely better than whats in this bottle.


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87 F250 traveler 15w40
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Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
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Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537188
10/08/17 12:47 PM
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ST Augustine, FL
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ST Augustine, FL
Looks like a good candidate for bypass filtration.


2010 Rav4 4cyl 131K QSUD 0W20 Baldwin bypass filter
2003 4Runner 4.0L 219K 0W40 M1 Frantz bypass
2007 F150 4.2L 169K 5W30 QSUD
2016 NV2500
2017 RAV4
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537202
10/08/17 12:58 PM
10/08/17 12:58 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
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WOW!



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537215
10/08/17 01:11 PM
10/08/17 01:11 PM
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S California
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This oil was probably drawn out of the top of a settling tank, a chance to make a few bucks. This kind of intentional behavior should be quickly brought before a judge. Motor vehicles are too expensive and complicated to suffer this kind of abuse. After the fact repairs never really address lost time and use, aggravation or make a victim whole, again.

Thank you PQIA for the good work that you do.

Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537248
10/08/17 01:51 PM
10/08/17 01:51 PM
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Connecticut
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With only some meager phosphorus (200 ppm) in that oil (and most everything else contaminants) it doesn't look to have come from any motor oil manufacturing process. They wasted their money putting Phosphorus in it....lol.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537398
10/08/17 05:31 PM
10/08/17 05:31 PM
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Texas
Neely97 Offline OP
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Texas
If you google the company, check it out, 3 employees.
Name:Conatus Oil & Gas, Inc.
Year Founded:
2010
State of Inc:Florida
Location Type:Single
Revenue:N/A
Employees:3
Facility Size:N/A
* Revenue & Employees are


6.7 cummins, Toyota 4 runner
FUMOTO
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537450
10/08/17 06:33 PM
10/08/17 06:33 PM
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New York
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New York
I'd love to see someone actually run an engine on 'motor oils' like these. Maybe put it on an engine dyno and run it through tests that simulate actual driving, and see what happens.

Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: 69GTX] #4537732
10/09/17 06:42 AM
10/09/17 06:42 AM
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New England
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
With only some meager phosphorus (200 ppm) in that oil (and most everything else contaminants) it doesn't look to have come from any motor oil manufacturing process. They wasted their money putting Phosphorus in it....lol.

Yeah, would have to be some kind of used non-detergent oil given that there is little calcium, magnesium, and sodium. Is there some kind of industrial or agricultural application that uses a lot of non-detergent oil with a small concentration of ZDDP?


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4537859
10/09/17 09:47 AM
10/09/17 09:47 AM
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Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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There are such applications, but I wouldn't source this oil for them. This probably is a de facto ND motor oil, but would not be what an OEM is envisioning when specifying a non-detergent oil.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97] #4537923
10/09/17 10:39 AM
10/09/17 10:39 AM
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Phoenix, Arizona - USA
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I could bottle the stuff that I drain out of my Fusion after 7,500 miles and it would still be far more suitable for use than what they're selling.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 266,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 60,000mi
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