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#4537045 - 10/08/17 11:41 AM 10-30 voa from PQIA
Neely97 Offline


Registered: 06/13/06
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Loc: Texas
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#4537060 - 10/08/17 11:51 AM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
bullwinkle Online   confused


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7666
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
That's some good liquid sand, 213 Si?? Would make good lapping compound!
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#4537082 - 10/08/17 12:06 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
danez_yoda Offline


Registered: 07/18/09
Posts: 464
Loc: texas
It probably was $10/qt too. smile

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#4537095 - 10/08/17 12:19 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2740
Loc: Wet side WA
I wouldn't use that stuff in my mower.
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#4537100 - 10/08/17 12:22 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1267
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
It is almost as if they deliberately kept anything good out, and added everything bad. There are a few oils like this on PQIA's site. The only thing I can think of, is that they are using used oil, filtering it to make it look good, maybe adding a little low quality new oil, and bottling it.

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#4537166 - 10/08/17 01:29 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16819
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Seems to me that they are deliberatly making this junk. Or scraping the bottom of the used oil tank at the local auto parts store. The oil in that tank is likely better than whats in this bottle.
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#4537188 - 10/08/17 01:47 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
exShuttlemech Offline


Registered: 05/22/17
Posts: 107
Loc: ST Augustine, FL
Looks like a good candidate for bypass filtration.
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#4537202 - 10/08/17 01:58 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
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WOW!



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#4537215 - 10/08/17 02:11 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
This oil was probably drawn out of the top of a settling tank, a chance to make a few bucks. This kind of intentional behavior should be quickly brought before a judge. Motor vehicles are too expensive and complicated to suffer this kind of abuse. After the fact repairs never really address lost time and use, aggravation or make a victim whole, again.

Thank you PQIA for the good work that you do.

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#4537248 - 10/08/17 02:51 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
Loc: Connecticut
With only some meager phosphorus (200 ppm) in that oil (and most everything else contaminants) it doesn't look to have come from any motor oil manufacturing process. They wasted their money putting Phosphorus in it....lol.
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#4537398 - 10/08/17 06:31 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
Neely97 Offline


Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 370
Loc: Texas
If you google the company, check it out, 3 employees.
Name:Conatus Oil & Gas, Inc.
Year Founded:
2010
State of Inc:Florida
Location Type:Single
Revenue:N/A
Employees:3
Facility Size:N/A
* Revenue & Employees are
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#4537450 - 10/08/17 07:33 PM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
jeff78 Offline


Registered: 06/06/17
Posts: 129
Loc: New York
I'd love to see someone actually run an engine on 'motor oils' like these. Maybe put it on an engine dyno and run it through tests that simulate actual driving, and see what happens.

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#4537732 - 10/09/17 07:42 AM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: 69GTX]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 3970
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: 69GTX
With only some meager phosphorus (200 ppm) in that oil (and most everything else contaminants) it doesn't look to have come from any motor oil manufacturing process. They wasted their money putting Phosphorus in it....lol.

Yeah, would have to be some kind of used non-detergent oil given that there is little calcium, magnesium, and sodium. Is there some kind of industrial or agricultural application that uses a lot of non-detergent oil with a small concentration of ZDDP?
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#4537859 - 10/09/17 10:47 AM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Virtus_Probi]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
There are such applications, but I wouldn't source this oil for them. This probably is a de facto ND motor oil, but would not be what an OEM is envisioning when specifying a non-detergent oil.
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#4537923 - 10/09/17 11:39 AM Re: 10-30 voa from PQIA [Re: Neely97]
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Registered: 06/23/14
Posts: 2157
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona - USA
I could bottle the stuff that I drain out of my Fusion after 7,500 miles and it would still be far more suitable for use than what they're selling.
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