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#4536660 - 10/07/17 11:26 PM Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard
camrydriver111 Offline


Registered: 07/01/14
Posts: 1488
Loc: Canada
When I was first getting into cars the internet oil gurus were telling me to avoid the Fram Extra Guard. It even has the nickname OCOD.

It seems like the dislike of the Extra Guard was due to the construction. Now it seems like there has been a reversal of opinion on the OCOD. People are saying the paper ends function just fine, and the filtering efficiency is actually better than OEM filters.

What exactly happened? Were people too hung up on physical appearance or were there some product changes? Did the oil gurus get it wrong?

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#4536663 - 10/07/17 11:30 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
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#4536667 - 10/07/17 11:33 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
71Chevyguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 414
Loc: Martinsburg West Virginia
Why get a cardboard filter, when you can get a well constructed one, for the same money, from a different brand? That's how I look at it.
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#4536669 - 10/07/17 11:34 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Loc: Northern Kentucky
Yes people were scared of physical appearance and thought fiber.. Bad! Metal... Good!

It also didn't help with people abusing filters and posting dissections of the carnage with sludge in the filters. Smart people see an abused fitler, idiots see a bad filter.
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#4536672 - 10/07/17 11:36 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: 71Chevyguy]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17221
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
Why get a cardboard filter, when you can get a well constructed one, for the same money, from a different brand? That's how I look at it.

What's your definition of well constructed?

Plenty of metal end cap filters with multiple issues.

There are also many filters on the market without metal end caps that work fine without any problems.

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#4536674 - 10/07/17 11:38 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: ZeeOSix]
bbhero Offline


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Exactlamente Zee0six.
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#4536684 - 10/07/17 11:49 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 351
Loc: Westfield, Ma.
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
When I was first getting into cars the internet oil gurus were telling me to avoid the Fram Extra Guard. It even has the nickname OCOD.

It seems like the dislike of the Extra Guard was due to the construction. Now it seems like there has been a reversal of opinion on the OCOD. People are saying the paper ends function just fine, and the filtering efficiency is actually better than OEM filters.

What exactly happened? Were people too hung up on physical appearance or were there some product changes? Did the oil gurus get it wrong?


Get a fram ultra and forget about it... approved
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#4536693 - 10/07/17 11:57 PM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 5505
Loc: FL, USA
I think everyone was just hung up on the "cardboard" end caps. The truth is they are good filters for what they are designed to do. I just choose to go with the Fram Ultra since they are only a couple dollars more but can be used for a much longer OCI. They are also built like a tank.
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#4536702 - 10/08/17 12:08 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
Ethan1 Offline


Registered: 12/29/14
Posts: 1620
Loc: 'murica
This is the second thread that I've seen today about this...

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#4536728 - 10/08/17 01:04 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: 71Chevyguy]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 988
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
Why get a cardboard filter, when you can get a well constructed one, for the same money, from a different brand? ...
Because sometimes "cardboard" is better, and you aren't qualified to tell the difference. Plastic can function well, too.
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#4536741 - 10/08/17 01:44 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 9843
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Don't judge a book by its cover, it does its job just fine.

It's like 20 years ago buying a new Toyota Camry for commuting. Yeah it's slow, ugly, and doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it gets you from point A to point B without any grief.
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#4536781 - 10/08/17 05:01 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29405
Loc: NY
I ran them for decades along with Mobil 1 filters before joining here, I never had a problem with them. Then I made the mistake of switching to Purolator filters, go figure. At the moment I'm only using Fram Ultra filters.
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#4536794 - 10/08/17 05:59 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 3512
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
99.999% of owners do not cut open their filters, thus they don't know the quality inside. Quality is judged by how hefty and strong the filter is outside. Millions and millions of miles are driven and there have been no stories in the news of faulty oil filters. If anything the fault lies with the installation.

Run the filter brand you trust. No need to worry over nothing.
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#4536795 - 10/08/17 05:59 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: 71Chevyguy]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 6517
Loc: Hudson, NH
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
Why get a cardboard filter, when you can get a well constructed one, for the same money, from a different brand? That's how I look at it.

Please explain.
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#4536797 - 10/08/17 06:06 AM Re: Opinion Reversal on Fram Extraguard [Re: camrydriver111]
Lubener Offline


Registered: 01/22/11
Posts: 2507
Loc: N.Ohio
Atleast they are not known for tearing.I would take the cardboard over tearing anyday.
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