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#4535618 - 10/06/17 05:41 PM Almost new genset with 100 hours
henni Offline


Registered: 12/28/11
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Loc: key largo,fl
So, in the storm aftermath, a few top end gensets are hitting the open market and I have a chance to pickup one top+of+the+line honda inverter at about 20% off new price.

This one appears to be (have not performed a close inspection yet, just phone interview to check out credentials and scam radar detection..) installed new this year and run almost non-stop for hundred hours and I suspect based on the vague answers, no oil changes were done. No idea also what oil they put in since new.

Assuming my worst fears are true and that I can perform a closer inspection before buying, how cautious should I be or just ignore it and assume it would be Ok with some immediate OC's at this point ? My assumption is that I would be allowed no more than 5 minutes to examine, perhaps start it, maybe connect some power tool to verify and that would be the limit. If the dipstick shows a metal sliver tar pit droplet, how much of a concern and how loud of an alarm should ring off ?
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#4535623 - 10/06/17 05:47 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
madRiver Offline


Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3545
Loc: New England
100 hrs is high mileage for 20% off new.

I would aim for 2/3 new price.

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#4535630 - 10/06/17 05:57 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32671
Loc: ME
If the seller doesn't have the receipt call the fuzz on him.

This genny will be cheaper next February when everyone forgets about hurricanes and needs money for Xmas bills.

IDK why someone would spontaneously buy a top shelf inverter generator to survive a storm unless they had no other option.

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#4535642 - 10/06/17 06:12 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
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Registered: 08/22/09
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Bring along enough electric heaters to load it down close to 100 percent of rated load and see if it can supply them for 15 minutes non-stop. If it can't then forget about it.
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#4535648 - 10/06/17 06:26 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: eljefino]
madRiver Offline


Registered: 07/11/15
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Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: eljefino
If the seller doesn't have the receipt call the fuzz on him.

This genny will be cheaper next February when everyone forgets about hurricanes and needs money for Xmas bills.

IDK why someone would spontaneously buy a top shelf inverter generator to survive a storm unless they had no other option.


They likely did not want to chase fuel down. These invertor ones sip fuel.

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#4535664 - 10/06/17 06:48 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
JimPghPA Offline


Registered: 08/22/09
Posts: 3859
Loc: Pittsburgh,PA U.S.A.
When you bring along the electric heaters keep in mind that it probably only has two 120 Volt outlets, and if it requires more than two electric heaters to load it down close to 100 percent you will require extension cords with multiple outlets on it to branch the connections out to more than two connections.

How many Watts is it rated for?
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#4535686 - 10/06/17 07:32 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: madRiver]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 6003
Originally Posted By: madRiver
100 hrs is high mileage for 20% off new.

I would aim for 2/3 new price.


Is that true? It's barely past break-in.

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#4535706 - 10/06/17 07:55 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
NormanBuntz Offline


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I too think that 20% off a generator with 100 hours is not enough of a discount.If the seller won't let you demo the unit to your satisfaction, run away.
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#4535708 - 10/06/17 07:57 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: eljefino]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5236
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Originally Posted By: eljefino
If the seller doesn't have the receipt call the fuzz on him.

This genny will be cheaper next February when everyone forgets about hurricanes and needs money for Xmas bills.

IDK why someone would spontaneously buy a top shelf inverter generator to survive a storm unless they had no other option.


Bingo. 4 months from now, you won't be able to give away a generator. Complete buyer's market.
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#4535711 - 10/06/17 07:59 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 4860
Loc: Houston, Texas
What kind genset are we talking about?
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#4535712 - 10/06/17 08:00 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
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Loc: Houston, Texas
Btw it's only called a genset when you have two.
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#4535746 - 10/06/17 08:44 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
philipp10 Offline


Registered: 05/09/14
Posts: 1184
Loc: Minnesota
Originally Posted By: henni
So, in the storm aftermath, a few top end gensets are hitting the open market and I have a chance to pickup one top+of+the+line honda inverter at about 20% off new price.

This one appears to be (have not performed a close inspection yet, just phone interview to check out credentials and scam radar detection..) installed new this year and run almost non-stop for hundred hours and I suspect based on the vague answers, no oil changes were done. No idea also what oil they put in since new.

Assuming my worst fears are true and that I can perform a closer inspection before buying, how cautious should I be or just ignore it and assume it would be Ok with some immediate OC's at this point ? My assumption is that I would be allowed no more than 5 minutes to examine, perhaps start it, maybe connect some power tool to verify and that would be the limit. If the dipstick shows a metal sliver tar pit droplet, how much of a concern and how loud of an alarm should ring off ?


I don't understand why your worried about one continuous 100 hour run on the oil. That's nothing. I would say though, 20% off is not enough. I would thing 1/3 rd off would seem about right.

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#4535753 - 10/06/17 08:49 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: philipp10]
JimPghPA Offline


Registered: 08/22/09
Posts: 3859
Loc: Pittsburgh,PA U.S.A.
Originally Posted By: philipp10
Originally Posted By: henni
So, in the storm aftermath, a few top end gensets are hitting the open market and I have a chance to pickup one top+of+the+line honda inverter at about 20% off new price.

This one appears to be (have not performed a close inspection yet, just phone interview to check out credentials and scam radar detection..) installed new this year and run almost non-stop for hundred hours and I suspect based on the vague answers, no oil changes were done. No idea also what oil they put in since new.

Assuming my worst fears are true and that I can perform a closer inspection before buying, how cautious should I be or just ignore it and assume it would be Ok with some immediate OC's at this point ? My assumption is that I would be allowed no more than 5 minutes to examine, perhaps start it, maybe connect some power tool to verify and that would be the limit. If the dipstick shows a metal sliver tar pit droplet, how much of a concern and how loud of an alarm should ring off ?


I don't understand why your worried about one continuous 100 hour run on the oil. That's nothing. I would say though, 20% off is not enough. I would thing 1/3 rd off would seem about right.


Actually, 100 hours is pushing the limits for an oil change on a generator.
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#4535766 - 10/06/17 09:03 PM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: motor_oil_madman]
rubberchicken Offline


Registered: 07/07/08
Posts: 399
Loc: Maryland USA
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Btw it's only called a genset when you have two.

In the boating industry they are called gensets. Come to think of it, in the commercial UPS / backup world they are commonly called gensets. No idea if this is a misuse of the term.


Edited by rubberchicken (10/06/17 09:04 PM)

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#4535922 - 10/07/17 06:10 AM Re: Almost new genset with 100 hours [Re: henni]
Cujet Offline


Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 7164
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
A Honda generator will easily go 100 hours on it's first oil change. I'd run it, pull the dipstick, if it looks good, it very likely OK. However, folks in the Keys were without power much longer than 100 hours.
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