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#4534543 - 10/05/17 11:45 AM Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy
THafeez Offline


Registered: 08/15/16
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10,000 miles and about a year on the filter. I think it did it's job, the pleat spacing near the seam was a bit wide. Did not affect functionality. Also the bypass valve was not seated properly, but did function when I pushed it. First time I've seen a Fram with a defective looking, BUT FUNCTIONING bypass.


Filter was full of oil.

After I drained some out.

Eek! It still worked.













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#4534549 - 10/05/17 11:54 AM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
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Did ya get a picture of every pleat?????
JK
sort of ...
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#4534551 - 10/05/17 11:54 AM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: dnewton3]
THafeez Offline


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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Did ya get a picture of every pleat?????
JK
sort of ...

Go big or go home right?
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#4534552 - 10/05/17 11:59 AM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
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The bypass valve was probably like that from the factory. Can't see how the 2 legs could dislodge and move if they were positioned correctly to start with. Looks good otherwise - thanks for the C&P.


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#4534554 - 10/05/17 12:02 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: ZeeOSix]
THafeez Offline


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Agreed. From what I saw, 2 of the plastic tabs were too short so they couldn't grip the spring like the other two.
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#4534560 - 10/05/17 12:14 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
ZeeOSix Offline


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Originally Posted By: THafeez
Agreed. From what I saw, 2 of the plastic tabs were too short so they couldn't grip the spring like the other two.

The spring just needs to be compressed a little more for those 2 tangs to capture the very end of the spring like the other 2 tangs that are correct.

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#4534570 - 10/05/17 12:37 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
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That's it, no more Ultras for me!
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#4534572 - 10/05/17 12:41 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: ZeeOSix]
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
The bypass valve was probably like that from the factory. Can't see how the 2 legs could dislodge and move if they were positioned correctly to start with. Looks good otherwise - thanks for the C&P.



First bad ultra that i've seen on here, hope your's is a very rare one... Other wise looks good for a 10,000 mile run...Thank's for the pics...
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#4534584 - 10/05/17 12:56 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: rollinpete]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
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Fram uses the same bypass valve on all their filter models. First time this has been seen here, so I'd say a very rare occurance.

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#4534585 - 10/05/17 12:56 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
Pajero Offline


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Thanks for sharing! BITOG changed my way of thinking. Ultra is an outstanding oil filter.


Respectfully,

Pajero!
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#4534605 - 10/05/17 01:24 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
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How do we know that the bypass valve was functioning? Not denying this, I'm just asking.
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#4534612 - 10/05/17 01:36 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
2015_PSD Offline


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Pleat spacing is normal as per every Ultra I have ever seen so nothing peculiar there. Where the tabs on the bypass broken or was the spring simply not compressed enough for them to have gone over the spring and engaged it?
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#4534615 - 10/05/17 01:39 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: paulri]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
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Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: paulri
How do we know that the bypass valve was functioning? Not denying this, I'm just asking.


Wondering myself does this make it a higher or lower psi bypass or is it the same? I've never tested these things out so how they exactly works is beyond me...Can anyone on here explain it? (curious minds want to know)... hornets
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#4534653 - 10/05/17 02:22 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: THafeez]
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Loc: Tennessee
I would think that the bypass would open a little bit easier (less force needed) so it would lower the psi needed to open it.
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#4534684 - 10/05/17 03:08 PM Re: Fram Ultra XG4386 10,000 miles CUT OPEN pic heavy [Re: rollinpete]
THafeez Offline


Registered: 08/15/16
Posts: 651
Loc: New Jersey

Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Pleat spacing is normal as per every Ultra I have ever seen so nothing peculiar there. Where the tabs on the bypass broken or was the spring simply not compressed enough for them to have gone over the spring and engaged it?


At least one tab looks like it wasn't molded properly. I tried to engage the spring on the sides that weren't in place and it wouldn't latch on. I still have the filter so I'll update if I can find the time.
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: paulri
How do we know that the bypass valve was functioning? Not denying this, I'm just asking.


Wondering myself does this make it a higher or lower psi bypass or is it the same? I've never tested these things out so how they exactly works is beyond me...Can anyone on here explain it? (curious minds want to know)... hornets

I pushed the plastic bypass, spring compressed and it opened. By "functioning" I meant that the plastic bypass moved like it should. It was not stuck and the spring compressed. PSI-wise I have no clue, just that it worked. Maybe I'll contact motorking and ask him if he would like to take a look at it.
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